Extreme Cruelty/Sadism : Cruella de Vil,: Wait a minute: we skin sheep, cows, mink, rabbits etc for their fur/skins. This was set in the 30’s or so,when furs were “in”. How is that “extreme”? Now sure, puppies are really cute and in Western society* we dont eat or skin them, so yeah, she’s weird.
Adding to #3 is Dr Facilier, Ursula, and of course Hades.
Hades isn’t so much “allied” with a dark force, as “is” a dark force.
Third vote for the Horned King from The Black Cauldron. Dude wanted to raise an army of undead soldiers to take over the world.
I’m surprised no one’s mentioned Governor Ratcliffe from Pocahontas (unless I missed it).
I don’t know why you’re confused. I quoted the post I was referring to.
And I stand by what I wrote.
The Mad Doctor wanted to do far more twisted things to Pluto than what Cruella wante to do with all those dogs.
The San Francisco pizza shop in Inside Out: they put broccoli on their pizzas!
But what about… The Phantom Blot???
Small potatoes compared to Shadow Blot.
I think that’s because everyone “missed it.” The movie, Pocahontas, I mean.
I think a lot of these villains get a bad rap because Disney movies with animal protagonists straddle this illogical gray zone where some of the humans treat the animals like animals, while we the audience know that the animals are as fully intelligent as humans, just lacking thumbs. Killing a hundred dogs isn’t a really noble thing, but it’s far worse if those dogs all have human-like thoughts and personalities. But Cruella doesn’t know that; she can’t, by the rules of the universe.
Non-Disney, but are the farmer and his wife in the movie Chicken Run evil just because they want to turn the chickens into pot pies? If they knew the chickens were sentient, then sure. But there’s no way for them to know that – it would break the movie if they could. Are the adults in Toy Story evil for throwing a box of toys in the incinerator? Nope. Presumably they’d treat the toys differently if they knew they had thoughts and feelings, but they’re not allowed to know that.
Chef Louis in The Little Mermaid just wants to kill and cook a crab. That’s his damn job. Turns out the crab is lovable super-genius crustacean Sebastian, but I don’t think we can hold that against Louis. If Sebastian didn’t want to get eaten he should have just started tapping out prime number sequences with his claws or something, or have a spider spin out a message for him.
True.
The actual name is Arawn.
He was the villain in the Black Cauldron novel (and at least background evil in all of them). But the movie was really the result of mashing the first two books together.
How many innocent playing cards lost their heads to the whim of the Queen of Hearts? And I’ll also nominate Ernesto de la Cruz for straight up murdering Hector in Coco.
If you read the books- none. The little King went around afterwards pardoning them all.
Never mind. I was beaten to the Michael Eisner joke.
In Roberto Benigni’s 2002 version of Pinocchio, the coachman pauses for a moment and says, “Look at these boys. They wouldn’t go to school. They wouldn’t learn a trade. Now they’re only fit for donkey-work.” It was not random Bad Guys doing random Evil Deeds. It was an allegory of Sloth vs Industry, Ignorance vs Education. The boys were facing the consequences of their own choices. (I admit, this is non-Disney. I don’t know if it is in the book or not.)
In the original story in 1001 Nights, the vizier is an antagonist, but hardly evil at all. The princess is betrothed to the vizier’s son, long before Aladdin ever shows up. At Aladdin’s bidding, the genie’s treatment of the vizier’s son is just slightly short of homicidal.
I’m not sure why Hollywood always turns Jafar into a villain. In the original 1001 Nights stories, he was usually one of the good guys.
Um John Lassiter?
If we rate insects up there with puppies or people, Hopper enslaves an ant colony for years then plans to completely starve it.
There is also the compelling argument that Belle would have been better off marrying Gaston.
I’ve often thought that Cruella would have taken Roger for everything he owned - including the puppies - in a defamation lawsuit. He literally wrote a hit single about how horrible she is (and bear in mind that he didn’t know about the dognapping - he just didn’t like Cruella). That’s a pretty easy case for her to win.