# Who's Your Favorite Troll, Idiot or Juvenile?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2000, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054 "2000-03-13T15:36:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2000, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/41 "2000-03-19T20:30:00Z")

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bj0rn the Conqueror spake:

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> seeing that there is no absolute truth

Actually, b, I can think of one absolute truth…

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“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.” -Winston Churchill

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2000, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/42 "2000-03-19T21:21:00Z")

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Have to chime in with NewtonsApple. One, because I was the first to jump on his ass in MPSIMS, and two, for the hilarious way he retaliated by claiming his computer was hijacked and he was in the FBI or something ludicrous like that. Knee slappin’ good!

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Shine on, you crazy diamond!

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2000, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/43 "2000-03-20T16:22:00Z")

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thats a sight for sore eyes…ive missed ya rousseau! what have you been up to lately?  
met someone who agrees with you? well, i hope you do someday, for it will be a day of joy (please note that this isnt sarcasm!)

do you people never stop troll hunting? or for the same matter, trolling? or has this continuous troll hunting bred a new species of trolls? intelligent ones. the trolls who are trolling without anyone accually knowing about it.

i do not advertize myself as a troll expert so i can not provide examples. so perhaps you, who are experts on the matter, can give us, the others, an analysis on the given subject?

bj0rn - oh yeah…rousseau is my favorite rousseau!

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2000, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/44 "2000-03-20T16:57:00Z")

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> Originally posted by bj0rn:  
> **i do not advertize myself as a troll expert**

Oh, but you _are_, bj0rn.

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> **so i can not provide examples.**

You just did 😃

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/45 "2000-03-21T06:47:00Z")

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I submit there is a difference between “trolling” and “being a troll.” I think everyone, at some point, could be accused of trolling, for fun or for profit, but that does not necessarily make them a troll. Seems to me it has more to do with consistent or constant behavior rather than just a few isolated posts.

MHO, of course.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/46 "2000-03-21T06:54:00Z")

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That’s true… I had quite the trolling going with that ‘what the hell is wrong with you damn americans’ thing in the pit, and i don’t think anyone called me on it, though it did get about 50 posts.

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**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2000, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/47 "2000-03-20T22:23:00Z")

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> or has this continuous troll hunting bred a new species of trolls? intelligent ones.

Then you must belong to the “old species” of trolls.

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> the trolls who are trolling without anyone accually knowing about it.

You’re confused again, bj0rn. The whole trolling MO is based around the fact that they crave attention. Like yourself, for instance. And they do so either by being exceedingly abrasive (not you), or by being tremendously incoherent (that’s you).

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“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.” -Winston Churchill

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/48 "2000-03-21T09:01:00Z")

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> The whole trolling MO is based around the fact that they crave attention

you are the expert, so you must be right about that (wait a minute…found someone who agrees with you!!!).

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> Seems to me it has more to do with consistent or constant behavior rather than just a few isolated posts.

thats sounds likely…

so, trolls constantly crave attention? is that what makes a troll? i assume that the method(or subject argued by poster) of getting attention that bothers people enough to call someone a troll.

what bothers me are the people that yell out: “\*\*\*\*\*\*\*(name) is a troll!!!”.  
what do they say about namecallers?

bj0rn - a smile is the way your life looks like in the mirror

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/49 "2000-03-21T10:35:00Z")

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bj0rn, I _must_ ask this because I want to know your secret.

What the **fuck** are you using, and why the hell isn’t it available in Amsterdam??

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![Popillia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Popillia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Popillia)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/50 "2000-03-21T13:05:00Z")

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Any and all of them that enter into an otherwise iformative, thought provoking thread, and instead of debating the issue start personally bashing the other posters!  
As exemplified in the Homophobic bigot thread I’ve been reading all night.  
You know who you are, and I know you will read this because thats what you live for to see your Username in a post!

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**Author:** ![Popillia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Popillia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Popillia)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/51 "2000-03-21T14:43:00Z")

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Yea I know, thats what the PIT is for. I just wish they could stay on subject. I get all worked up reading everyones post with their differing points of view, and then someone goes off on a personal vendetta that has nothing to do with the original post.  
If CB is worried about TomNDeb being a hermorphodite then he should start his own thread on the subject “Why I resort to name calling when someone disagrees with me”

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/52 "2000-03-21T16:34:00Z")

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If I ever decide to resign the UncleBeer handle, this is definitely goning to be the new one. **Omphaloskepsis**. Thank you, Tom.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/53 "2000-03-21T17:54:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Popillia:
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> Any and all of them that enter into an otherwise iformative, thought provoking thread, and instead of debating the issue start personally bashing the other posters!  
> As exemplified in the Homophobic bigot thread I’ve been reading all night.

Well, in their defense, it _is_ in the Pit, so they can rant if they want - hell, I _started_ the thread with a rant and a flame, so that’s ok.

But jumping into an intelligent debate on GD and being ignorant, well, that’s another matter.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2000, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/54 "2000-03-22T06:06:00Z")

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I would also note that, while I prefer that even in the Pit we maintain the standards of the Straight Dope by avoiding ignorance, it can not be said that I have never baited anyone, here. I simply prefer to bait ignorance and stupidity with facts and logic rather than obscenities, profanity, vulgarisms, and name-calling.

I think it gives me an edge when battling buffoons like **John John** to make them foam at the mouth while I am keeping my cool. I am certainly flaming them and I would be dishonest to claim otherwise. I think I’m having more fun, however.

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Tom~

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2000, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/55 "2000-03-22T00:21:00Z")

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> Originally posted by UncleBeer:  
> **If I ever decide to resign the UncleBeer handle**

Don’t say shit like that, Unc! It ain’t funny.

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2000, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/56 "2000-03-22T23:20:00Z")

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coldfire: stale bread with chocolade butter, and milk.

mixed with beer, applejuice and ice cream makes one pretty silly at times

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> I think it gives me an edge when battling buffoons like \*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*\<ed.\> to make them foam at the mouth while I am keeping my cool.

does the same…doesnt it?

bj0rn - ohmmmm… ohmmmm… ohm-bab-ah-lu-la! Ohmmmm… \*garfield

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2000, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/57 "2000-03-22T23:35:00Z")

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> I think it gives me an edge when battling buffoons like John John to make them foam at the mouth while I am keeping my cool.

Well said, **Tom**. That’s been my strategy for a long while, with such notables as the Phaed, Cyb, some of the more rabid Pound Puppies, and to a lesser extent folks like Pashley, Freedom, and CB.

As long as I determine that no one can push my buttons, it’s easy to stay cool and push others’.

-andros-

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2000, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/58 "2000-03-22T23:37:00Z")

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Well, that and the fact that I actually have a life beyond the MB . . .

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2000, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/59 "2000-03-23T04:35:00Z")

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You have a life? Where’d you get it? Gee, I wonder if I could find one? Do you think WalMart might have them?

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**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2000, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-favorite-troll-idiot-or-juvenile/6054/60 "2000-03-23T05:04:00Z")

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Yeah, WalMart might, but I’m trying to find an e-tailer that carries them, so I won’t even have to leave my computer.

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“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.” -Winston Churchill

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