# Who's your Papa? Latest Chick Abomination

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 3, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653 "2009-01-03T01:29:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/1 "2009-01-03T01:29:56Z")

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[Holy Fathuh!](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1057/1057_01.asp?wpc=1057_01.asp&wpp=a) :rolleyes:

Where do I begin? Here are some of my favorite “comment hooks” in this tract:  
“If the Pope is the holiest man on earth, why isn’t **everybody** Catholic?”  
– followed by “Is there something I _don’t_ know?” – GLAD YOU ASKED! Mr. Sick will be happy to answer you, through the key protagonist of this tract.  
Naturally, there is the slur about Catholic priests and altar boys. (Not that I’m pro-RC, but what are the stats on this?)  
“You mean ‘Caesar’? … Hey, they’re the _same_ thing!”  
Does this sound familiar? “… all a big show” --Chick has called it (RCC) religious show business before.  
“Now… it’s only bread! --But watch what happens next!” Funny, I was raised in a Catholic home, and I can’t recall any of this from the Missal. Maybe it was in the Latin, but dropped when Mass in the vernacular (local language) was extended.  
“Who are you going to believe? _This guy_, or God?” – Isn’t it great how simple a question Chick makes it? I’ve actually witnessed a conversation across denominational lines (not involving Roman Catholicism) that included: “I’m not going to listen to you, I’m going to listen to Christ!” So, once again, things in Chick tracts have a very familiar ring."

(Hmm. Obama called “ **that** one” in one of the debates.)  
And so on…

Maybe I will cover more tomorrow.

- “Jack”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/2 "2009-01-03T01:38:49Z")

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At least Chick embodies a rare and interesting cultural relic. Protestant anti-Catholicism has played such an important part in American history, and it’s such a rare animal nowadays, when conservative Catholics and conservative Protestants and even conservative Jews are more likely than not to make common cause.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/3 "2009-01-03T01:39:42Z")

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I love you **True Blue Jack**. You bring joy and chick mockery into my life.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/4 "2009-01-03T01:46:46Z")

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“Symbolizing a male organ, used by Masons world-wide.”  
\<snerk!\>

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/5 "2009-01-03T01:57:15Z")

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Actually, [_vaticanus_ means “uninhabited,”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican#History) not “foretelling the future.” (But there **was** a circus there once, and the Vatican Obelisk really does date back to it.)

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/6 "2009-01-03T02:22:00Z")

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I wonder if Chick is surrounded by many people who don’t know who the pope or Jesus are… Perhaps he’s only been driven to tract-writing by some odd demographic quirk that has him surrounded by the most religiously ignorant people on the planet?

Or maybe they’re just stringing him along by now. He got all into this and now he’s making all those cute little cartoons and nobody really has the heart to tell him any more.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/7 "2009-01-03T02:35:04Z")

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The image of Jesus flying like a li’l plane into the communion wafer is the best part of a solid effort.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/8 "2009-01-03T03:39:40Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> The image of Jesus flying like a li’l plane into the communion wafer is the best part of a solid effort.

That wasn’t Jesus. It was “Jesus”.

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/9 "2009-01-03T04:20:41Z")

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Hee. Father O’Tool.

I’m operating on four hours of sleep and I’ve just regressed to 12, okay?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/10 "2009-01-03T04:51:07Z")

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Are SDMBers the only people who read Chick tracts?

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/11 "2009-01-03T04:55:30Z")

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I’m surprised he left out the whole Pontifex Maximus = Emperor = Pope thing.

But I did like the off-the-cuff dis of the Masons, thrown in out of nowhere in an anti-Catholic rant.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/12 "2009-01-03T05:17:46Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> Are SDMBers the only people who read Chick tracts?

Nope. My eldest brother (who’d be horrified at the things which go on here) reads 'em, and I’ve had nutters hand me them when they were trying to convert me.

What I love is how Jimmy has apparently _never_ heard of the Pope. This is sort of the reverse for Chick’s usual tracts where someone has never heard of Jesus.

**CaerieD** , I’ve had plenty of sleep and I giggled at “Father O’Toole” myself, so don’t feel bad.  
And I have to wonder why Chick doesn’t reference [this book](http://books.google.com/books?id=GooEAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=two+babylons&ei=AvReSaOSI6DkzQTLs4TXBA), which manages to take the anti-Roman aspects of the New Testament (some of which would _not_ be familiar to a modern reader of the NT) and bizarrely apply them to the Catholic Church.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/13 "2009-01-03T05:28:47Z")

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Heh, Erasmus did a better job, way back during the later Renaissance.

I read an essay of his in which the Pope is knocking on the gates of Heaven. When St. Peter asks him who he is the Pope refers to the PM(Pontifex Maximus) initials, asking “don’t you know what they stand for?” St.Peter answers “I believe they stand for Pestis Maximus, the Supreme Plague”

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/14 "2009-01-03T05:34:52Z")

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> [@True Blue Jack](#):
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> “If the Pope is the holiest man on earth, why isn’t **everybody** Catholic?”

I love that.

Somebody’s got to be the holiest (though I have some pretty severe doubt it’s the pope), and everybody isn’t part of that somebody’s religion.

“If cows give milk, why isn’t my hair a banana?”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/15 "2009-01-03T07:08:46Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> But I did like the off-the-cuff dis of the Masons, thrown in out of nowhere in an anti-Catholic rant.

In the Chickiverse, the Masons are but puppets of the Vatican despite the appearance of mutual hostility. Same with the Nazis and the Communists and the Illuminati – and the Muslims. And the Pope himself is but a puppet of the Jesuit General, who is a puppet of Satan. I’m not making any of this up. I’ve got some of his Crusader Comics in plastic bags. It’s a sickness.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/16 "2009-01-03T12:13:03Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> And I have to wonder why Chick doesn’t reference [this book](http://books.google.com/books?id=GooEAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=two+babylons&ei=AvReSaOSI6DkzQTLs4TXBA), which manages to take the anti-Roman aspects of the New Testament (some of which would _not_ be familiar to a modern reader of the NT) and bizarrely apply them to the Catholic Church.

The only books that Chick (or whoever’s writing these now) plugs in his tracts are those published by the fine people at Chick Publications.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/17 "2009-01-03T13:11:28Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> The image of Jesus flying like a li’l plane into the communion wafer is the best part of a solid effort.

. . . complete with a little leather helmet and goggles, put-putting around in his Sopwith Camel, fighting the evil Satin and his Huns-of-the-Sky.

Tripler  
Nnnnnnoooowwwrrrr . . . rat-a-tat-tat-tat. . . Nnnnnnnnoowrrrrrrrrrr ::swooping motions::

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/18 "2009-01-03T13:15:15Z")

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Wait. Rome is the seat of world power and controls the UN, governments and the world’s finances?

Then what do the Jews do now then?  
I swear I can’t keep this shit straight.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/19 "2009-01-03T13:21:00Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> The only books that Chick (or whoever’s writing these now) plugs in his tracts are those published by the fine people at Chick Publications.

And HERE it is!

> **[Chick.com: 
            The Two Babylons - by Alexander Hislop](https://www.chick.com/products/item?stk=0185)**
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> The original work by Alexander Hislop that shows the Babylonian origin of many Catholic teachings. Heavy scholarly reading.

Here’s a recent popularization of that book-

> **[Chick.com: 
            Babylon Religion - by David Daniels](https://www.chick.com/products/item?stk=0187)**
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> Learn how a Babylonian goddess became the Virgin Mary. An easy-to-read history of Catholicism's Babylonian origin.

The Chick color comic version (focusing on occultism & Masonry as much as Catholicism)-

> **[Chick.com: 
            Angel of Light - by Jack T. Chick](https://www.chick.com/products/item?stk=0109)**
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> 32-PAGE, FULL COLOR COMIC BOOK - Satan, as an

And the Alberto comics (scroll down)-

> **[Product Categories](https://www.chick.com/store/product-categories)**

Chick used to carry an older popularization of Hislop’s The Two Babylons. Read what happened when the author Ralph Woodrow actually did some research.

[http://www.ralphwoodrow.org/books/pages/babylon-mystery.html](http://www.ralphwoodrow.org/books/pages/babylon-mystery.html)

[http://www.ralphwoodrow.org/books/pages/babylon-connection.html](http://www.ralphwoodrow.org/books/pages/babylon-connection.html)

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/20 "2009-01-03T13:42:15Z")

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Now, when I was in Catholic Sunday school, the teacher made it very clear to us that, yes, the bread actually is being transmogrified…err transubstantiated, and it isn’t mere symbology. [I renounced all that silliness years ago btw]

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