# Who's your Papa? Latest Chick Abomination

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 3, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653 "2009-01-03T01:29:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/61 "2009-01-05T17:40:09Z")

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Part of the imagery is what I call the Mark Trail rule:

Sideburns = evil.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/62 "2009-01-05T17:42:38Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Maybe “Jack Chick” is one of those “Dread Pirate Roberts” deals, where a new one takes over every so often.

[Apparently not.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chick)

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/63 "2009-01-05T17:56:51Z")

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> [@Trathena](#):
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> If Jesus is celibate, why isn’t **everybody** celibate?

Fuck if I know.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/64 "2009-01-05T18:03:09Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> This is not the case of Chick, though. In one of the lasts Chick’s thread, someone linked to an early Chick’s tract, depicting an atheist. And Chick was right on the money. The atheist used perfectly sensible and consistent arguments, so much so that even though he of course ended up in hell, I suspect this tract might have been counter-productive. It wasn’t even remotely similar to his current tracts (except for the “I don’t believe, I die, God sends me to hell” part)…

Do you mean “Hi There!” from the '70’s, spoken about two or four months back on SDMB?

- “Jack”

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/65 "2009-01-05T19:05:53Z")

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Nothing really to add to the discussion; just wanted to make sure that my post #6,666 went in this thread.

Oh, and the tiny flying Jesus _was_ awesome.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/66 "2009-01-05T21:28:35Z")

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On thing that puzzles me is that I seldom see a knock-down, drag-out debate between equally hard-core members of different denominations. Instead, they talk past each other and target their rhetoric at the fence-sitters etc. out there in media-land.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/67 "2009-01-05T23:07:43Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> On thing that puzzles me is that I seldom see a knock-down, drag-out debate between equally hard-core members of different denominations.

Ooh, that’d be cool! Put Jack Chick into the cage with [Bill Donohue](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Donohue) and pop some corn! More fun than a bum-fight! 😃

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/68 "2009-01-05T23:18:57Z")

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Don’t you just love how Farmer John is just _waiting_ for his chance to pontificate? Pounce! Pounce! You Ceasar faker!! :rolleyes:  
Gah, I think I’ve mentioned it on the boards before, but I used to give these things out as a fundamentalist Christian teenager. Perhaps I should start a “Ask the…” thread.  
Now days, I can’t even imagine what I was thinking.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/69 "2009-01-05T23:59:29Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Gah, I think I’ve mentioned it on the boards before, but I used to give these things out as a fundamentalist Christian teenager. Perhaps I should start a “Ask the…” thread.

Was that before you got corrupted by Alice Cooper? 😃

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/70 "2009-01-06T00:02:07Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Gah, I think I’ve mentioned it on the boards before, but I used to give these things out as a fundamentalist Christian teenager. Perhaps I should start a “Ask the…” thread.  
> Now days, I can’t even imagine what I was thinking.

Not that hard to understand. Teenagers are often given to enthusiasm for causes and, in most cases, have yet to develop critical thinking skills. You might have been a Moonie if they had got to you first.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/71 "2009-01-06T00:44:09Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Was that before you got corrupted by Alice Cooper? 😃

Oh yeah baby. Now if only the Master had gotten to me first… \< growl \>

😉

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Not that hard to understand. Teenagers are often given to enthusiasm for causes and, in most cases, have yet to develop critical thinking skills. You might have been a Moonie if they had got to you first.

Thanks. But there’s still times that I’m amazed I developed any critical thinking skills at all. For in our household (long before the conversion even), doing anything but blithely following along was ripe for severe whoop-ass punishment.

I’m surprised that I didn’t think the Easter Bunny was real 'cause my mother felt I should retain the “innocence of childhood” as long as possible. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/72 "2009-01-06T00:48:47Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Gah, I think I’ve mentioned it on the boards before, but I used to give these things out as a fundamentalist Christian teenager. Perhaps I should start a “Ask the…” thread.  
> Now days, I can’t even imagine what I was thinking.

Well, everybody’s hiding something.

Hey wait a second… if **faithfool** used to hand out Chick comics, why doesn’t EVERYBODY give out comics?!

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/73 "2009-01-06T20:37:42Z")

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I don’t know. I was reading along, kind of enjoying this one as a good, second-tier Chick-ism - stupid without being dull, bigoted without being _too_ hateful, and with the occasional outright whopper to keep us all on our toes -

And got all the way to the end. And sighed, in disappointment.

A Chick tract without a “HAW! HAW! HAW!”? What a let-down.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/74 "2009-01-06T20:43:38Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Hey wait a second… if **faithfool** used to hand out Chick comics, why doesn’t EVERYBODY give out comics?!

I’ve got a few old Blackhawks and maybe an an Aquaman or two you can have.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/75 "2009-01-06T21:21:41Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> I’ve got a few old Blackhawks and maybe an an Aquaman or two you can have.

HALLELUJAH!

Our Father who art in Atlantis, shallow be Thy name. Bless me and keep me in the watchful eyes of your holy winged messengers, who are Andre and Olaf and Chop-Chop forever, except for the ‘New Blackhawks’ fiasco and that one Chaykin series. In the name of Mera and Tula and Lady Blackhawk, Amen.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/76 "2009-01-06T22:18:11Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> …“If cows give milk, why isn’t my hair a banana?”

Heh. I see that several folks have given a version of such a bizarre question.

This is one of the reasons why I don’t try to put out every comment that comes to mind when I start a thread like this one. I feel that sometimes there would be a “pre-emptive” effect\* in doing so, and its much more fun to let others pick up on it, while committing to memory my own words. (The other reason, of course, is laziness.:o)

Here goes: If Jack T. Chick is the _wisest_ man on earth, why isn’t **everyone** a lunatic-fringe fundie?

Something’s missing here…

[Voice of George Costanza’s girlfriend’s father]

_Something’s missing_, all right…

[/Voice] 😛

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- Based on the feeling that perhaps only one person will be inclined to follow up on that angle, and they might not if something similar to what they were going to say was already said. Once many people have responded, though, it seems an unnecessary concern.

- “Jack”

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/77 "2009-01-06T22:37:20Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Ooh, that’d be cool! Put Jack Chick into the cage with [Bill Donohue](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Donohue) and pop some corn! More fun than a bum-fight! 😃

Indeed the “popcorn” metaphor was on the tip of my tongue. But like you said, we’re talking pay-per-view.

I remember back when Muslims were going apeshit over _The Satanic Verses_, which was shortly after Christians went monkeypoop over _The Last Temptation of Christ_, I said, “Can’t we get 2 groups of angry Christians and Muslims together in an arena somewhere and let 'em battle each other with books?”

But I think the reason we don’t see more interfaith debates is that the various fundamentalists are afraid of _each other_. Much easier to look down with righteous superiority on the evil Secularists and play the victim or the tolerance hypocrisy card when the going gets rough.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/78 "2009-01-08T20:00:28Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, he certainly places a lot of importance on Martin Luther. But, in one of his comics, he portrayed Christians fleeing into the mountains to be safe from the false “Christianity” proclaimed by Emperor Constantine – implying an underground survival lasting centuries, like Gardner claimed for the Wiccans.

For a while, JTC actualy tried to portray Constantine as the first pope! :rolleyes: Needless to say, there are tons of historical reasons to reject that as some pretty silly trash. He hasn’t repeated that claim recently, although he has had plenty of occasions to do so. And so perhaps some things are too crazy for even Chickie to keep repeating.

- “Jack”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/79 "2009-01-08T20:14:39Z")

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> [@True Blue Jack](#):
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> For a while, JTC actualy tried to portray Constantine as the first pope! :rolleyes:

Based, IIRC, on the facts that

1. Constantine, as emperor, held the title of [_Pontifex Maximus,_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifex_maximus) which the popes later assumed;

2. It was Constantine who called the [First Council of Nicaea](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea) of 325 A.D. that put Christian doctrine in substantially the form still followed by Orthodox, Catholic, and (most) Protestant Christians.

Of course, the Bishop of Rome at that time was a different person, [Silvester I](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Sylvester_I) (who did not attend the Council but sent two legates).

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whos-your-papa-latest-chick-abomination/479653/80 "2009-01-09T20:37:37Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Must be one worn-out organ by now. Don’t they even have a spare?!

Nah. Just wait three days. It’ll rise again.

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