Whose life matters?

I don’t “this” often but…this exactly and that is why “All Lives Matter” is disingenuous Bullshit.

They don’t. As mentioned, it is mostly selective perception, and anecdote.

Regards,
Shodan

There is no matter, only energy that sometimes acts like matter.

Some things seem like matter but they are only vast empty spaces linked by something that seems to exist, only to be found to be elusive energy particles.

Weak little shits of gravity. Unruly undefinable things that seem to exist except when you look for them they are not where they should be and if you actually find them you don’t know what energy state they are in.

What little fuckers they are. If we could only find out what these little energy things are we could blame it all on them.

Personally I blame it on the turtles, all the way down.

If someone stuck a microphone in my face and said that to me, my response would be “Fuck off, get out of my way.”

Like this anecdote.

Cops motto: When in doubt, shoot the black man!

For those who do not want to click the link:

Charles Kinsey is a mental health worker. His client had wandered from his group home. Police encountered the pair while searching for an armed suicidal man. Kinsey, who is black, was trying to get his client, who is white, to comply with police commands.

Kinsey was laying on his back with hands raised. And a cop shot him. The cop fired three times, hitting Kinsey once. Then they left him on the ground for 20 minutes with no police offering aid.

Kinsey’s life did not matter to the police. Again, they were there for the white guy, they shot the black guy. Neither guy was armed. The black guy was laying on the ground with arms raised.

And for the lamest justification of the year:

Trying to save Kinsey’s life. Was aiming for the other guy. With a rifle. Fired three times. Hit the black man, who is magnetic or something. And left him bleeding on the sidewalk. :smack:

Correct, anecdotal.

Regards,
Shodan

I have not (yet) read the entirety of your second link, but the abstract notes that controlling for context does not eliminate a racial disparity with regard to the use of non-lethal force on blacks and Hispanics vs. on whites. That seems to support the assertion Little Nemo’s assertion that “police apply a different standard to white and black suspects.”

Shodan’s belief is that the police do not shoot blacks more often than whites. And if they do, it’s because they deserved it, what with being criminals and all. And it can proven with statistics, because cops are very honest when writing reports about what went down. Which is good because the statistics are based on the official records. Which is why I keep bring up this cite. Were it not for a 3rd party catching the action on his cell phone, this would went down as another good shooting of a thug who had threatened the officer. His report would have been the official version of events.

The point is that cops sometimes lie in their reports. Especially if it makes them or fellow officers look bad.

Black lives matter. I get it. It’s sad that it needs to be pointed out.

This.

Black holes swallow matter.

I chose “black lives matter.” Implicit ‘too’ and all.

In that particular case, though, my reaction would probably be, “oh God, why am I at a Trump rally? What happened?”

Yes! This just what it mean but people read it as Black lives matter (only) . :smack: It’s so good to see that someone else get what this means .

I’m a Christian. Obviously I am for the oppressed people. I don’t get to go and ask the oppressors if they are actually being oppressed. The only purpose arguing serves is to make the lives of the oppressed people worse.

Of course I say Black Lives Matter. It’s just inherently true.

And if, somehow, cops aren’t disproportionately killing black people, then they have no reason not to say it themselves. It’s only if they aren’t that they have to worry.

And the fact that they freak out about it instead of agreeing with them shows that they sure think they have something to worry about.

Yeah, of course this, also.

I love how you imply that Shodan is wrong, it’s not mostly anecdotes.

And your proof is an anecdote.

And you even label it an anecdote.
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I believe the original intent of the movement was to agree that all human life is important and to suggest that police were making an exception for black people, and that they weren’t being treated with the same respect afforded to people of lighter skin colours. Might have been more clear if they’d said “Black lives matter too”.

Of course they do.

This.

I wish all the protest signs said ‘Black Lives Matter (too)!’

I see it as a worthy cause with shitty messaging.

I think black folks shouldn’t have to worry about the police. And I think they have legitimate reasons to do so. But, I have to admit that my back gets up a little bit when people shout, “Black Lives Matter!” because it sounds a bit like I don’t think black lives matter. That’s preposterous.

But, at the same time, it’s completely reasonable to ask that I agree that Black lives matter (just like everyone else’s).

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