# Whose non-existance would save the most lives, directly or indirectly?

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**Created:** [August 9, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-non-existance-would-save-the-most-lives-directly-or-indirectly/505790 "2009-08-09T01:46:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-non-existance-would-save-the-most-lives-directly-or-indirectly/505790/41 "2009-08-09T22:11:52Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> Hitler was anti-Christian and heavily influenced by neo-paganism.

That’s just Christian historical revisionism.

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> You’re pretty ignorant of theology didn’t Jesus say to turn the other cheek?

As I said, meaningless. His basic worldview demands endless war and oppression. Lines like “turn the other cheek” if anything undermine any tendency toward morality and peacefulness because they are so blatantly impractical; they encourage unethical behavior by encouraging the idea that good behavior is stupid.

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> What was so wrong about the Cold War may I say? If not Communism would have triumphed and would kill tens of millions of people more then in our world. Also you despise the Founding Fathers? They were regardless of religion the beacons of liberty and freedom in the world: are you a communist or something?

The Cold War was a war of two evil sides as far as I’m concerned. And the founding fathers were genocidal slaveowners, and opposed to liberty and freedom save for a select few people.

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> You’ll still have several other religions.

Which probably wouldn’t be as bad as Christianity and it’s offspring.

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> Christianity is anti-genocide and killing in it’s actual form.

Yes, No True Scotsman would do such things.

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> Why would you eliminate all religion. What’s the point of converting people to atheism anyway?

Because religion is stupid and malignant; atheism is both correct and morally neutral.

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> The Christian God of an all encompassing universal deity is far more science oriented then the pagan gods.

Garbage; Christianity is all about believing the One True Way, ignoring the facts and denying that other beliefs are anything but evil. It’s the enemy of science, or any other sort of reason or attempt to understand the world. It is the champion of madness and ignorance.

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> You seem to ignore the fact that Christianity is a religion of love in it’s real form and promotes helping people and caring for them.

Garbage. It’s a religion of hate; malice as an ideology. It has spent about two thousand years grinding away at everything good in the world; compassion, reason, happiness, pleasure, knowledge; Christianity is the enemy of them all. It got to it’s present position of power due to it’s willingness and drive to overgrow and destroy everything but itself; it is the intellectual equivalent of a malignant cancer. It has caused grave and possibly irreparable harm to humanity’s collective nature; even many non-Christian cultures have been corrupted by it’s grim opposition to all form of happiness, beyond the malignant joy of harming others.

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