# Whose the most dangerous member of The Legion of Doom?

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**Created:** [April 22, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264 "2015-04-22T06:47:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Riddler has masterminded at least one gigantic scheme, which I won’t spoil, and if memory serves, he once beat the hell out of Green Arrow (admittedly, something we’ve probably all wanted to do at times). I would class him as at least more dangerous than Cheetah.

Cheetah? Psychotic superfast lady with claws? Riddler is MORE dangerous than her?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/22 "2015-04-23T22:47:36Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Cheetah? Psychotic superfast lady with claws? Riddler is MORE dangerous than her?

QFT. Assuming we’re talking about comics-Cheetah, she’s someone who can give Wonder Woman a good tussle. Riddler would at most mildly annoy the Queen of the Amazons.

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**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/23 "2015-04-23T23:28:27Z")

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What would the LOD do if earth were attacked by a cosmic menace who meant to do away with the planet? I don’t know much about DC villains, but would Luthor have the brain power to help deal with a Galactus or Thanos type menace?

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**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/24 "2015-04-23T23:30:59Z")

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> [@Reluctant\_A](#):
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> I dunno, Precious Paul was pretty dangerous.

Jake the Snake Roberts was a member in the early days. Nowhere near the physical equal of Hawk or Animal, but diabolical.

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/25 "2015-04-23T23:32:37Z")

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In the Justice mini-series no one thought Riddler was a joke.

DC should just cede all creative control to Alex Ross, Mark Waid or Gail Simone. If there’s a well done characterization of anyone, one of those three did it.

Luthor can’t even figure out the guy that just interviewed him is his arch-rival! Methinks his intellect is an “informed ability”.

Sinestro, on the other hand, has actually conquered a planet.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/26 "2015-04-23T23:33:04Z")

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> [@P-man](#):
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> What would the LOD do if earth were attacked by a cosmic menace who meant to do away with the planet? I don’t know much about DC villains, but would Luthor have the brain power to help deal with a Galactus or Thanos type menace?

Sinestro is, basically, an evil Green Lantern.

And with Lex Luthor as Sinestro’s idea man, a cosmic menace ain’t.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/27 "2015-04-23T23:35:34Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> QFT. Assuming we’re talking about comics-Cheetah, she’s someone who can give Wonder Woman a good tussle. Riddler would at most mildly annoy the Queen of the Amazons.

To be fair, Cheetah is all kinds of powerful, and she’s not stupid at all. However, she doesn’t really go in for grand plans. She doesn’t really want to rule or destroy the world, or even really hurt anyone. She’s an enemy of Wonder Woman, but apart from that she mostly likes to enjoy life. She’s basically an evil Laura Croft. Well, given that Laura Croft casually murders men by the dozens in the pursuit of slaughtering wildlife for fun and destroying ancient temples, she might be the good (well, _better_) Laura Croft. Cheetah has been known to show a heroic streak, even though she is fully capable of killing.

Out of Wonder Woman’s foes, Circe is probably the single most dangerous. She’s very much capable of threatening the entire world. If she had a hair more power, she’d have won already.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
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> [@G0sp3l](#):
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> Luthor can’t even figure out the guy that just interviewed him is his arch-rival! Methinks his intellect is an informed ability".

He’s got an irrational blind spot when it comes to Superman, but is otherwise aces.

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/29 "2015-04-23T23:45:42Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> He’s got an irrational blind spot when it comes to Superman, but is otherwise aces.

🙂 Yeah. I just don’t like Supes, Luthor or DC much. Way over-powered.

I loved the Elseworlds stuff. And Suicide Squad/ Secret Six/ Manhunter. And Bats, sometimes.

And Darksied

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/30 "2015-04-23T23:53:22Z")

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> [@P-man](#):
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> I don’t know much about DC villains, but would Luthor have the brain power to help deal with a Galactus or Thanos type menace?

Yes. In fact, it was Luthor who saved the galaxy from Darkseid (the guy Thanos is based on) at the end of the JLU series.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/31 "2015-04-24T01:32:16Z")

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> [@P-man](#):
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> Jake the Snake Roberts was a member in the early days. Nowhere near the physical equal of Hawk or Animal, but diabolical.

Well, if you’re going to go that route, King Kong Bundy would probably win. I mean, he even managed to break Hogan’s ribs. Who else can say that?

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/32 "2015-04-24T05:31:44Z")

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[No Legion of Doom thread is complete without this video](https://youtu.be/eGQEAiZJMco)

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Well, if you’re going to go that route, King Kong Bundy would probably win. I mean, he even managed to break Hogan’s ribs. Who else can say that?

But Paul Ellering said Bundy wasn’t a member and called him fat, resulting in him turning. I saw him and Masked Superstar take on the Warriors.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/34 "2015-04-25T21:24:06Z")

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> [@P-man](#):
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> But Paul Ellering said Bundy wasn’t a member and called him fat, resulting in him turning. I saw him and Masked Superstar take on the Warriors.

The Spoiler (Don Jardine) was also a member. He’s dead now, but he may have been the most legitimately “dangerous” of the group.

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> It’s a four-way tie between Luthor, Brainiac, and Bizarro.

Bizarro am good at math!

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/36 "2015-04-26T00:13:57Z")

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I don’t really understand how Bizarro is even in the running. Yes, he’s strong - but he’s incredibly stupid and can’t accomplish anything on purpose. He’s only even destructive out of accident.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whose-the-most-dangerous-member-of-the-legion-of-doom/718264/37 "2015-04-26T04:43:00Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> I don’t really understand how Bizarro is even in the running. Yes, he’s strong - but he’s incredibly stupid and can’t accomplish anything on purpose. He’s only even destructive out of accident.

He’s got the most raw power. Grundy’s a zombie-Hulk, but Bizarro has a host of powers that make him much more dangerous if he gets in a destructive mood. Luthor and Sinestro need technology to fight-Bizarro just smashes.

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