# Why am I not supposed to care about Hillary's health?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 26, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992 "2016-08-26T04:26:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/61 "2016-08-28T21:04:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> For us to believe that Trump is “getting desperate”, we have to first believe that he can realize that he isn’t winning. Granted, that should be as obvious as tits on a duck.

He knows this - that’s why he has started to try to appeal to “the blacks.” Now he’d do better if he could find some to actually talk to.  
(And I know why he is really doing it - another sign of desperation.)

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/62 "2016-08-29T12:10:49Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> He knows this - that’s why he has started to try to appeal to “the blacks.”

African-Americans, please.

I notice he never says “blacks” or “black people” at his rallies. Listen to him, he always says “AFRICAN-Americans,” with the emphasis on African.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/63 "2016-08-29T15:42:46Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Have you _looked_ at the pathetic scrap his campaign tried to pass off as such?

I wonder if they’ll be able to get [Brent Spiner](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/) to play [Dr. Bornstein](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-doctor-draws-fresh-scrutiny-all-the-wrong-reasons) in the made-for-TV movie.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/64 "2016-08-29T15:46:51Z")

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The latest problem with Hillary, according to Donald J. Trump: [Her brainpower.](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/770252177512230912), or lack of.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/65 "2016-08-29T17:36:23Z")

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Biggest Projector in the Universe. Yuuuugggge projector!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/66 "2016-08-29T20:58:52Z")

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> [@DonLogan](#):
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> African-Americans, please.
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> I notice he never says “blacks” or “black people” at his rallies. Listen to him, he always says “AFRICAN-Americans,” with the emphasis on African.

I thought it was just me. He shouts AFRICAN!! then “american”. Pretty transparent who the message is really for.

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/67 "2016-08-29T21:03:48Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I thought it was just me. He shouts AFRICAN!! then “american”. Pretty transparent who the message is really for.

His speechwriter knows if he said black the crowd would boo.

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/68 "2016-08-30T02:49:21Z")

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yeah there is nothing to see here that’s why the huffington post deleted an article that mentioned her health and fired the writer immediately.

> **[Wow! Huffington Post Deletes Articles and Terminates Writer for Questioning...](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wow-huffington-post-deletes-articles-terminates-writer-questioning-hillarys-health/)**

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/69 "2016-08-30T03:03:31Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> yeah there is nothing to see here that’s why the huffington post deleted an article that mentioned her health and fired the writer immediately.
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> [Wow! Huffington Post Deletes Articles and Terminates Writer for Questioning Hillary's Health | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wow-huffington-post-deletes-articles-terminates-writer-questioning-hillarys-health/)

Anyone pointing at Infowars and Alex Jones should be treated like Stephen Fry treated people that believe in astrology:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WnoaNLaq1Mo/hqdefault.jpg "Astrology.avi") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnoaNLaq1Mo)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/70 "2016-08-30T03:04:28Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> yeah there is nothing to see here that’s why the huffington post deleted an article that mentioned her health and fired the writer immediately.
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> [Wow! Huffington Post Deletes Articles and Terminates Writer for Questioning Hillary's Health | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wow-huffington-post-deletes-articles-terminates-writer-questioning-hillarys-health/)

I’d assume they deleted them because they were conspiracy theory nonsense.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/71 "2016-08-30T03:08:38Z")

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At first I was suspicious, but I googled the reporter’s name (David Seaman) and the parade of rock-solid journalism allayed all doubt. _InfoWars, Breitbart, Daily Caller, DailyStormer_…

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/72 "2016-08-30T03:12:23Z")

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So they fired him because he was a known conservative hack? Why did they hire him in the first place?

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/73 "2016-08-30T03:16:35Z")

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Also explain this video without her having neurological issues? [The Truth About Hillary's Bizarre Behavior - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s)

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/74 "2016-08-30T03:22:39Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> So they fired him because he was a known conservative hack? Why did they hire him in the first place?

I do remember in a previous election there was a similar nut that was picked from DailyKos. He/she made very embarrassing posts that were pointed out by conservative outfits in an attempt at discrediting the whole site.

I remember looking at it and found that the poster was not a very important one and his reprehensible posts were never linked to the main page as to reach that usually the support of other contributors or up votes were needed.

I think this is similar, with the only difference that the nutpick was picked by the poster there. What over here would be called “suicide by mod” and to gain some celebrity karma among conservatives with his sob history.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/75 "2016-08-30T03:28:25Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> Also explain this video without her having neurological issues? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s)

:rolleyes:

Please, even my few years in video editing tell me that the first few seconds had looped and re-winded sequences manipulated in a attempt at making her look to have what she does not have.

You need to explain why in a place called The Straight Dope you are pushing ideas that come from the bottom of the barrel of conspiracy theorists.

As for the maker of that video, I looked around and he is a big time supporter of Breitbarts’ Milo Yiannopoulos, that also should deserve a baning for that video maker.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/76 "2016-08-30T03:28:31Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> Also explain this video without her having neurological issues? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s)

I am not a doctor, I’m a nurse. But I am trained to recognize “neurological issues” in people who don’t always want to tell me their whole history. And that - even with the best efforts of the video editor rewinding, fastforwarding and repeating frames to make her movements look more jerky and disjointed - does not look like neurological issues. That looks like a person who is emoting.

Of course, I’m not her nurse, she’s not my patient, I’ve never met her in person, and some highly edited videos are no substitute for a medical evaluation. But I just don’t see it.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/77 "2016-08-30T04:28:29Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> Also explain this video without her having neurological issues? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s)

It was edited to make it look worse. I mean … it the quality of that video editing is just embarrassingly bad. I can’t believe that you’d just lay that video out there with a straight face, drewder. It was so bad I kept expecting to see Nessie come drifting by.

Anyway, you can see video of the original event at the Snopes page about this

> **[Hillary Clinton Has a Seizure on Camera?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/)**
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> A video clip purportedly shows presidential candidate Hillary Clinton undergoing a seizure on camera, but there's no credible evidence she actually did.

They show the whole interview. Clinton was looking one way and talking to a reporter when someone launched a new question at from behind her shoulder, and Clinton makes an exaggerated move to show that she was surprised by the second question in her ear. (And also because she really didn’t want to talk about Elizabeth Warren for VP, at the time.)

Snopes notes there’s no evidence at all that she is suffering neurological damage in this video. They note that the incident took place a month before the edited video starts circulating, with it’s unsourced accusation.

Snopes rates this Unproven, which is true enough, but honestly - in the absence of medical information to the contrary, there’s simply no reason to give the video the time of day.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/78 "2016-08-30T04:57:55Z")

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**Mernith** thank you for finding that as it was bugging me … I had remembered seeing it that day and that it was joking off and refusing to answer an over-eager question about Warren as possible VP … but all my googling came up with was that it was in a bakery after having given a speech about Planned Parenthood.

And btw I have seen many seizures … I have known seizure … and that **drewder** is no seizure.

These are what they are coming up as Swiftboat attempts? Are they even _trying_ anymore? Pretty damn amateurish and pathetic.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/79 "2016-08-30T05:51:46Z")

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Seriously, with the amount Clinton travels, speaks, and is generally in public and the media spotlight, if she did have major health issues, I think they’d have become abundantly apparent to even laymen by now.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-am-i-not-supposed-to-care-about-hillarys-health/763992/80 "2016-08-30T11:29:55Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> At first I was suspicious, but I googled the reporter’s name (David Seaman) and the parade of rock-solid journalism allayed all doubt. _InfoWars, Breitbart, Daily Caller, DailyStormer_…

Makes you nostalgic for [Jeff Gannon of Talon News](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon), doesn’t it?

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