# Why Anti-Zionism Is NOT Anti-Semitism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 2, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374 "2010-02-02T14:00:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/41 "2010-02-02T17:13:04Z")

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Flexibility is a sure sigh of demonic possession.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/42 "2010-02-02T17:16:53Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Reminds me of the old Jewish joke about a Jewish guy who, every day, reads anti-semitic screeds with his breakfast.

Reminds me of another.

A Jew is in a train station in Poland and is walking up to random people and asking them “Are you an anti-Semite?” All of them, angrily, say no. Finally he gets to one who says “Yes, I hate the Jews. They rejected Jesus and control the world and are responsible for me having no power or control over my own life.”  
The man says “Oh, fantastic, an honest man! Please watch my luggage, I need to run to the bathroom.”

Then a Cainite jumps out from the shadows and feeds him to an opossum.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/43 "2010-02-02T17:19:37Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Flexibility is a sure sigh of demonic possession.

Exactly. Only the Ratichrist can save me now!

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/44 "2010-02-02T17:21:30Z")

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The poor cats are now wondering why their False Zionist Ratichrist Killer Marsupial Disrespector Vampire Opposum Worshipping Kenite is too busy laughing at the posts in this thread to feed them.

😃

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/45 "2010-02-02T17:26:31Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> No you’re not. You’re figuratively kicking yourself–unless your foot actually in real life literally hit your ass.

If you ask me, anyone with “lemur” in their username is _highly suspect_.

They call them “primates”, but I think we all know The Truth!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/46 "2010-02-02T17:36:11Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Exactly. Only the Ratichrist can save me now!

Blaspheeeeemer!  
How dare you not worship as my religion says. Obviously, that shows that you are in league with the arch-demon that my religion created becuase, well, I really can’t conceive of a possibility where you just don’t accept my theology and have your own.

Also, you’re a vampire and you control the media.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/47 "2010-02-02T17:37:52Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> Is this a good place to discuss [Berlusconi’s suggestion to bring Israel into the EU?](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/01/AR2010020101855.html)

He can make the suggestion, but I don’t think it’ll happen, Israel’s presence in Eurovision aside. Israel doesn’t have the best relationship with the rest of the EU, and with public opinion in the EU. So, I don’t think you’ll see Israel joining until the whole Palestinian problem is settled at least.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/48 "2010-02-02T17:38:02Z")

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I almost feel sorry for the OP. Like pushing baby chicks into a pool filled with alligators. However:

> [@](#):
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> I predict that this thread will be “Closed” within 24 hours, I might even be Banned for alleged “Terms of Use” violations from alleged “Anti-Semitic” statements, and there might even be a “Witch Hunt” on here to try to find and retalliate against my girlfriend (who is also a member of Dope, but I refuse to reveal her name). I’ll be thoroughly surprised if the Admins of this board can handle the Truth better than I expect. Of course, I do expect to see a few ad-hominem attacks or attempts at ridicule. There’s always one of those “bad apples” in every bunch.

You won’t be banned for anti-Semitic statements. Nor will the thread be closed because of those anti-Semitic statements (perhaps because of your anti-Semantic statements though). You’ll be banned because you have a huge chip on your shoulder and you are obviously TRYING to get yourself banned. Unless you are a sock it will probably take more than this thread to get you banned, but I predict it won’t take too long. As for the thread, it will be moved (to the Pit hopefully) or closed because there really is no debate here…just a mountain of crazy.

As for the ad-hominem attacks, well…to be sure. If you drop fresh blood in the water, you need to expect the sharks to attack. If you spew out an OP full of crazy bullshit religious non-sense without even attempting to make cogent arguments or set up a coherent debate, then it’s not going to be much of a surprise when people make fun of you. It’s sad, since it seems fairly obvious that you need help, but it’s the way of the world, internet style. Especially here on the 'dope.

As for your alleged girl friend 'doper, no one gives a shit man. No one is going to ‘retaliate’ against her…that’s your own paranoia and delusion talking. You might embarrass her (if she exists) if you associate yourself with her, but unless you are really her secret sock puppet it’s not going to make any difference to anyone on this board that she has a crazy boyfriend.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/49 "2010-02-02T17:43:43Z")

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Is the OP gone…or just playing dead?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/50 "2010-02-02T17:43:53Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> As for your alleged girl friend 'doper, no one gives a shit man. No one is going to ‘retaliate’ against her…that’s your own paranoia and delusion talking. You might embarrass her (if she exists)

Actually, you’re wrong. She does exist and is a virtuous White Christian pillar of faith. As such, those of us of the Cainite persuasion are already tracking her down, at which point we will capture her, drug her, and put her into porn. _Opossum porn_.

True story.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is the OP gone…or just playing dead?

Come on, don’t be silly. He realized that since the [del]Jews[/del] Childer of Caine control the world, that he wants to get out of his rut and join the winning team. As such, he’s not playing dead he’s… playing _possum_.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/51 "2010-02-02T17:48:01Z")

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If Occam’s Razor applies in this instance, the OP’s “girlfriend” is probably his sister.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/52 "2010-02-02T17:49:04Z")

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[QUOTE=FinnAgain]  
Actually, you’re wrong. She does exist and is a virtuous White Christian pillar of faith. As such, those of us of the Cainite persuasion are already tracking her down, at which point we will capture her, drug her, and put her into porn. Opossum porn.  
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Ah…well, that’s good then. It restores my faith in humanity and re-centers my concept of the universe.

I prefer [hedgehog porn](http://www.brentter.com/sprint-pants-or-no-pants-ad-agency-life/) myself…

-XT

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/53 "2010-02-02T17:55:47Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I will also note that the OP is so far away from any serious discussion of the topic, that any genuine discussion of the relationships between anti-semitism and opposition to Zionism should probably be kept out of this thread to avoid contamination.

The Mod Ruling of the Year, right there, folks!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/54 "2010-02-02T17:59:13Z")

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I thought threads on Zion’s Friction belonged in Cafe Society?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/55 "2010-02-02T18:02:02Z")

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Actually, they’re not quite equivalent XT. You see, those who know The Truth know that God really has a hierarchy in mind for the world. It goes:  
-J.R. “Bob” Dobbs  
-Satan  
-The anti-Satan  
-Jews, minorities, lesbians, gays, the transgendered, non-Christians, Christians who aren’t assholes  
-Opossums  
-Politicians  
-Lawyers  
-Hyenas (although some have argued that this is redundant as lawyers are already listed)  
-Whales  
-Greenpeace  
-Green Whales  
-Green Eggs and Ham  
-Those who bear the Curse of Ham  
-Pigs  
-Cattle  
-Ostriches (only if trained in martial arts)  
-Ostriches (if not trained in martial arts)  
-Any woman not covered in the above list  
-Any man not covered in the above list  
-White folks in general.  
-Mithras.  
It’s very scientific, and made very clear by the Bible, right there in, well, you all know where it is in the Bible.

Glad I could clear that up.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/56 "2010-02-02T18:10:37Z")

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> [@Sarahfeena](#):
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> Those things _are_ from the Devil. I saw one once in my backyard, in the very early-morning light, when I was leaving to go to the hospital have a baby. I was overdue and on my way to being induced because my labor would not start. The thing had 8 half-grown babies hanging off of it, and all eighteen of their eyes were glowing red at me. I almost didn’t need the fucking pitocin…I nearly had that baby right then and there. \<shudder\>

Some claim that such sights can have lasting effects. But I don’t care what anyone says, **Sarahfeena** , your baby is [real cute](http://www.schuylkillcenter.org/images/image_sub2_wildlife6.jpg).

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/57 "2010-02-02T18:13:20Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> Ah…well, that’s good then. It restores my faith in humanity and re-centers my concept of the universe.
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> I prefer [hedgehog porn](http://www.brentter.com/sprint-pants-or-no-pants-ad-agency-life/) myself…
> 
> -XT

Two words I never thought I’d see in the same sentence: hedgehog and porn. Do the furries know about this one?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/58 "2010-02-02T18:20:39Z")

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Actually, (false)Jewish (real)Vampires have infiltrated the furry community and use them to oppose Jesus.  
So yes, they know about it.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/59 "2010-02-02T18:20:44Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> If Occam’s Razor applies in this instance, the OP’s “girlfriend” is probably his sister.

Mock the OP’s arguments all you want, but whatever everybody thinks of this subject, the basic rules still apply.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/60 "2010-02-02T18:28:57Z")

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Oh, fiiiiine. Sorry, OP.

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