# Why Anti-Zionism Is NOT Anti-Semitism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 2, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374 "2010-02-02T14:00:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/121 "2010-02-03T05:52:15Z")

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Nope. Concrete is laid by construction workers. Everybody knows that construction unions are all corrupt and are run by the Mafia. The Mafia is run by Italians. Italy is where Rome used to be. Rome is what the US loosely based itself on, and what informed much of western society. However, the real secret is the The Empire Never Ended (cite: VALIS) and the Romans still control us in the Black Iron Prison. And they’re evil enough that they made us all hate the Jews when really we should be hating those damn Italians.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Obvious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mister\_Obvious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Obvious)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/122 "2010-02-03T06:06:30Z")

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> [@Dr.Crap](#):
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> Dude, you’re totally going to score with your self-hating girlfriend!

_Very funny_ The reason I won’t reveal who she is or even link us as Contacts on here is so that we can lurk in the threads we each read and/or join and then mock the crap that we see there from those who make wisecracks like this, totally in “stealth” mode. One of my employees also lurks here and posts on occasion. The site has proven more amusing than I previously thought it would be. I can see why my girlfriend joined now. Her job is pretty stressful and the ignorance displayed by some on here tends to be good for some laughs.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> If Occam’s Razor applies in this instance, the OP’s “girlfriend” is probably his sister.

Now **that** was just plain **ignorant**! Many thanks to **Marley23** for stepping in during my absence to put this person in their place. No, we’re not relatives. We don’t even live in the same County. There’s a 60-minute round-trip drive involved whenever we go out.

> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Oh fine, I’ll start the witchhunt. You’re his girl, aren’t you? I can tell because you know where he is and you’re the only one sharing the crazy.
> 
> That and do you really think the Jews aren’t watching you all the time?

No, **itsmeshh** isn’t my girlfriend. She’s my sister-in-law. Former friend of one of my ex-girlfriends. She met my brother while I was dating her so-called “friend” and married him shortly after I dumped the girl for never really being much of a “friend” to anyone.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> This is fair. But as noted in the linked thread in Comments on Staff Reports, the OP[supports](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12064841&postcount=87) a brand of [White Supremacist ideology](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12063474&postcount=48) whereby white Christian men are in charge of everybody else with White Christian women subservient to them and dominant over everybody else, and Jews (in the service of Satan, naturally) lower than animals.
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> The claim was also that nobody who is lower on the ‘hierarchy’ could ever possibly be abused, by definition. So if a white Christian man beat the shit out of a white Christian woman then that wouldn’t be abuse, and he could kick the shit out of some dirty foreigners since they didn’t show him (and I quote) DUE RESPECT by being subservient to him in all his white male Christian glory. And white male Christians are glorious, and it’s just that Jews pretended to be Christians and such and made people think that upstanding white Christians formed the vast majority of slave owners, sellers, and transporters, that the white Christian nation of Germany caused the Holocaust, that Stalin was [an atheist who was raised a Christian](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2397/was-joseph-stalin-once-a-seminarian) and who later went on to become one of the worst tyrants in history, and so on.
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> Now, I don’t generally make a habit of parsing racist cosmology, but it should be noted that if men rule over women and nobody who rules over someone else can ever possibly abuse them, that forcing one’s self upon one’s sister would only be making her show (again, I quote directly) DUE RESPECT.

This is a classic case of either simple, honest **misinterpretation** of the Hierarchy, or perhaps deliberate **misrepresentation** of its meaning! I’ll decide which one based on further observations of your other posts. The **only** legitimate application of the Hierarchy is that no person’s being in a higher position on the Hierarchy than another may **ever** be interpreted as granting the higher-ranking person the right to abuse his or her subordinates! Abuse of whatever authority a person may hold under God’s Hierarchy in such a manner as **FinnAgain** describd is a serious offense! Admittedly, certain so-called “Christian” sects, and some “Muslim” ones, among others, **do** , in fact, permit such abuses of authority. My own personal beliefs, however, do not condone such behavior. The manner in which Jim Crow laws were applied in the old South often represented unconscionable abuses of authority, I won’t argue with that. My own views on interracial interactions are that the choice of how much interracial interaction one personally practices and with which members of other races one chooses to interact are personal choices best left to each individual, not a matter of State-imposed mandate. I have Black neighbors, in fact. We’re friends. They’re very well-assimilated into Western Culture, however. We’ve discussed Race Relations, in fact, and they actually share some of my views. They don’t blame me (or even Whites in general) for Slavery, and I don’t blame them for the murder of my great-grandfather 80 years ago. We’re past that crap. They know that people far wealthier than I (regardless of religion or ethnicity) were responsible for Slavery. The ordinary American of the 19th Century could no more afford to buy a slave than the modern-day American can afford to buy a new Ferrari. The super-rich, however, bought slaves by the dozen back then. I made about $40K last year. Most of the houses in my part of Suburbia cost less than most exotic sports cars. The teenage children of the White family who own the other neighboring house are far more annoying than I ever expected the worst-case family of Blacks who could afford to live on this street might have been. Not that the White kids are all that annoying, either, they’re just typical noisy teenagers with their loud conversations and louder car engines and radios, and usually less noisy after the city’s 11:00PM curfew for minors.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/123 "2010-02-03T06:15:17Z")

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> [@itsmeshh](#):
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> the Khazars having converted from Paganism to Judaism by their King’s decree in 740 AD (randomly selecting Judaism from the choices of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) so as to gain the trust of target commercial markets (primarily for the sale of slaves) because only practitioners of monotheistic faiths were considered trustworthy by the buyers they hoped to attract.

The Khazars weren’t merchants. They were pastoral nomads. And their choice of Judaism wasn’t random. It was an attempt to remain neutral in the conflict between the Byzantines and the Arabs. That was, of course, the official state religion, and there were large numbers of Christians and Muslims among the Khazars.

I’ll also point out that most modern Jews don’t have predominantly Khazar ancestry. Most European Jews are descended from Jewish communities that settled in Roman colonies during the time of the Empire. The only place outside of Khazria that Khazars settled in any large amounts after the fall of the Khazar state were likely Hungary (where a group of Khazar clans, after a failed rebellion against the Khazar khagan, joined the Magyars) and Persia, where it’s possible that some Khazar Jews joined existing Jewish communities there.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/124 "2010-02-03T06:30:49Z")

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> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> the ignorance displayed by some on here tends to be good for some laughs.

Tell us more about the global conspiracy of secret Jews to control the world and how those who don’t buy the fiction and live in a perpetual state of racist fear are ignorant.

> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> Abuse of whatever authority a person may hold under God’s Hierarchy in such a manner as **FinnAgain** describd is a serious offense!

First, let’s be clear, it’s not God’s hierarchy, it’s the one racists dreamed up.  
Second, let’s be clearer, as I already cited what was said which is different from your risible dodge. To the point:

> [@what you're denying](#):
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> In God’s original Hierarchy, Satan occupies the rock-bottom position. Kenites, being of Satan, are the next level above rock-bottom! Satan’s goal, in fact, is to completely INVERT the Hierarchy which God has Created (ie: to place himself at 1 and God at 9, and to reverse all levels in between). This is also where concepts from radical feminism to radicalized “animal rights” activism originate, from Satan. Under Satanic radicalism, the simple act of expecting DUE RESPECT from one’s subordinate(s) is called “abuse”. The truth is that NO ONE in a superior position may EVER, under ANY circumstances, ABUSE any in a subordinate position, that’s simple COMMON SENSE.

Readers who are able to read for content will note (despite all the absurd punctuation and capitalization) that the claim was made that, for instance, whites dominating blacks, men dominating women and everybody dominating the Jews, spawn of Satan and lower than animals that they are (not a racist, not a racist!!!) is just keeping them in their place and getting “DUE RESPECT”. :smack:

> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> I have Black neighbors, in fact. We’re friends. They’re very well-assimilated into Western Culture, however.

Yes yes, some of your best friends are them thar negros, and them thar Serpent Jews, too. Yeah… And, gee, them thar negros are pretty integrated into western culture. I suppose that might even be surprising to someone of your ilk. The rest of us, realizing _that blacks have been part of America before there was an America_, aren’t exacly shocked. Says a lot that you feel the need to mention that, gee, that black feller was all integrated into western society. And, of course, I’m sure it’d be intersting to hear all about what you view as being western culture. Let er rip.

Is this the point where you claim that Hitler was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew, whites weren’t the prime movers, owners, buyers and sellers of slaves during the slave trade, etc…? Or, how about filling us in on who the “real” Jews are, who the “fake” Jews are, how the “real” ones control the entire world, why they do, how come nobody but racists who are forced to make stuff up in support of bogus conspiracy theories have flashed to it, etc, etc, etc.

Come on, give us the high grade stuff. We’ve been amusing ourselves mocking tidbits here and there, come on and cut lose.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/125 "2010-02-03T06:46:18Z")

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> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> _Very funny_ The reason I won’t reveal who she is or even link us as Contacts on here is so that we can lurk in the threads we each read and/or join and then mock the crap that we see there from those who make wisecracks like this, totally in “stealth” mode.

You’re not fooling anyone, the “stealth” was “blown” on you and **itsmeshh**.

> [@itsmeshh](#):
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> I’m pretty ticked off at the trillionaire Elite whose influence over public policy has caused the buying power of what I earn at my office job for a huge multinational corporation to decline at a faster rate than the annual pay raises I earn ever seem to offset.

Holy inflation batman, now there are \*\*\*trillionaire \*\*\* Jews running everyone’s lives! How exactly does this hierarchy work? If non-billionaire Jews are fake “fake Jews,” are the trillionaires fake fake “fake Jews” or does it go the other way and they become true “Jews” - and crap, is “Jews” the same as Jews?

> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> She met my brother while I was dating her so-called “friend” and married him shortly after I dumped the girl for never really being much of a “friend” to anyone.

I’m confused, which means “I’m having sex with,” “friend” or friend. Hmm, and is I’m having sex with the same as “I’m having sex with?” Truly, you should publish a hierarchy of “quotes.”

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Obvious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Mister\_Obvious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Obvious)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/126 "2010-02-03T07:07:59Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> …Yes yes, some of your best friends are them thar negros, and them thar Serpent Jews, too. Yeah… And, gee, them thar negros are pretty integrated into western culture. I suppose that might even be surprising to someone of your ilk. The rest of us, realizing _that blacks have been part of America before there was an America_, aren’t exacly shocked. Says a lot that you feel the need to mention that, gee, that black feller was all integrated into western society…

There’s a reason why I capitalize “Blacks” as well as “Whites” when discussing the two races. Why don’t you? Western Culture respects individual Liberty and also recognizes the Right of each of the various races to preserve their existence and exercise their Right to practice Self-Determination, to be the masters of their own destinies! What I said was that Slavery was practiced in North America exclusively by people far more wealthy than I. Why is the Middle Class White Man held responsible for the actions of multi-millionaires, whether Jewish, Christian, White, Yellow, etc.? Slavery had been abolished before the first of my ancestors arrived here. The first of my ancestors to arrive here (and one of my relatives could verify that, having researched our ancestry and compiled a book of which he distributed copies at a family reunion 20 years ago) arrived after the Civil War. We’re all Northerners, so don’t blame us for Jim Crow, either.

It’s been a long day, so I’ll be signing off for the evening. My company just filled another major order today and prepared the finished items for shipment. We deal in Industrial Electrical control panels and, to a lesser extent since NAFTA, Electrical installation and Maintenance work for the few small firms still able to remain successful in the Manufacturing business in this state. I also switched to a new Accountant recently and had a meeting with my employees after work to remind them that their W-2’s were mailed from the office of a different Accounting firm this year. Not that there was a problem with my old Accountant. The new firm has better access to other helpful Business services and might be able to help me reach an important personal goal, that of being able to offer my employees a group health care plan that my firm isn’t large enough to be required to offer, but I would like to have the opportunity to provide at a more-reasonable cost than the previous quotations I’ve considered. Being that it’s 2:00 AM here, it’s time to wrap up for the night.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/127 "2010-02-03T07:09:18Z")

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> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> The reason I won’t reveal who she is or even link us as Contacts on here is so that we can lurk in the threads we each read and/or join and then mock the crap that we see there from those who make wisecracks like this, totally in “stealth” mode.

I hate to break it to you but your self-hating girlfriend sounds like a very advanced [stealth Jew](http://www15.ocn.ne.jp/~oyakodon/newversion/yudayasensou.e.htm). Her level of deception would suggest to me that she’s thousands of years old. If you were really concerned with your privacy, you would connect via a distributed, anonymous proxy network, but only when your ISP gives you a new dynamic IP address. This usually takes between 3-4 weeks and would significantly slow down your connection. Really, it’s a matter of your priorities. What’s worth more to you? Figuratively ejaculating onto a message board or your freedom?

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/128 "2010-02-03T07:10:00Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Sounds like the tie in Ken dolls for Human Sacrifice Barbie, actually.
> 
> That explains how they don’t qualify as real Jews! Real Jews are anatomically correct.

Ken dolls!

What does Israeli Barbie yell when she comes? “Ken,\* Ken, KEN!!!\*”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/129 "2010-02-03T07:11:11Z")

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God dammit. One shoots quotation marks at his posts with a blunderbuss, the other throws capitals like so many darts. Why do y’all hate the white man’s language ?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/130 "2010-02-03T07:31:39Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> God dammit. One shoots quotation marks at his posts with a blunderbuss, the other throws capitals like so many darts. Why do y’all hate the white man’s language ?

I am now reading his posts in a Captain Kirk voice. I find it helps.

> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> Ken dolls!
> 
> What does Israeli Barbie yell when she comes? “Ken,\* Ken, KEN!!!\*”

[translation for the Hebrew impaired]Ken means “yes” in Hebrew.[/TFTHI]

> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> There’s a reason why I capitalize “Blacks” as well as “Whites” when discussing the two races. Why don’t you?

Well, I could probably start with the fact that there’s no such thing as a white race or a black race, or that in English we capitalize proper nouns and not adjectives, or, well, forget it. You just go on capitalizing every third word and we’ll call it even.

I do have to say I’m disappointed in you. In the other thread in which your partner in crime plagiarized your “people of Walmart” stuff, the source material had showed you supporting some really interesting viewpoints.I wonder, why is it that you’re purposefully toning down your presentation and playing cutsey semantic games and continually trying to divert the conversation with long, irrelevant, rambling anecdotes? Hrmm… I wonder.

Since this thread is evidently spawned by the continuation of a minor board invasion that started when someone else plagiarized your screeds from another site, I think it’s only fair to point out some other stuff you said. Let me remind you.

[

> [@](#):
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> It’s no secret that Jews are fascinated with taboo sex practices (incest, pedophilia, etc.) to the point of obsession. Jewish pornographers (Damn, that’s almost as redundant as “round curves” since ALL the big-name porn studios are owned by Jews)  
> […]  
> Isn’t “Hadassah” the ancient false-”Jewish” tradition of training false-”Jewish” girls to prostitute themselves to wealthy and/or powerful non-”Jews” as a means of corrupting them into siding with “Jews” over the best interests of their own people???  
> […]  
> Actually, it was false-”Jewish” merchants who traded liquor and smallpox-laden blankets to the Natives for valuable fur pelts. It was the false “Jews” who marketed stolen Africans as slaves to the Colonists. The false-”Jewish” banking dynasty of the Rothschilds was responsible for elevating its “dirty little secret” (Adolf Hitler, illegitimate grandson of Salomon Mayer Rothschild, product of his rape of a servant girl) from obscurity to be cast as the “Villain” in another war in which loans from Rothschild banks funded both sides, the resulting Holocaust ® half-truths serving as rationalizations for the actrions of the terrorist gangs which founded the fraudulent state of false “Israel” in direct disobedience of God’s decreed exile of the Jews!
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> False “Jews” have considered themselves the “Master Race” for over 5,700 years. Hitler was only emulating his “Jewish” forebears’ racism!  
> […]  
> If you support Liberalism, then you are a supporter of Communism without necessarily KNOWING that you are!!! The same neo-Bolsheviks who were behind all the hippy-dippy crap of the 1960s are the ones pushing Liberalism now, and they’ve just attached new NAMES to the same old COMMIE crap they’ve always pushed. “Progressive” is the new name for Statist (advocate of Big-Government bureaucracy). “Democracy” is the new name for Socialism. “Change Agent” is the new term for Spy. “Cognitive Infiltration” is the new term for Psychological Warfare (aka Disinformation / Brainwashing). The practice of re-naming Bolshevik ideas and/or altering the usage of common words is called called “Semantic Deception”. As someone stated many comments ago, the United States has always been a Constitutional REPUBLIC, not a “Democracy” (and compared the two by saying that a “Democracy” is like an electrical system without safety devices, whereas our Constitutional Republic contains Constitutional safeguards against the tyranny of a ‘New Majority’ which might otherwise de-Westernize America). In its current usage, the word “Democracy” actually refers to the Stalinist concept of Democratic Socialism wherein debate was permitted on a proposed change of policy up until the change was enacted, then no further questioning of the merit of the new policy was to be permitted.
> 
> As to your not getting as much work as you think you would as an Actress “if Jews really controlled Hollywood”, it is QUITE likely that the impostor “Jews” who DO control Hollywood view you as an outsider due to your being a genuine Jew or as a self-hater because you are not rabidly pro-Zionist. The false “Jews” are a VERY exclusive and VERY paranoid clique. They probably don’t TRUST you enough to let you into their inner circle.

]([http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=7556](http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=7556))

So quit it with this tame bullshit and give us the pure, unadulterated stuff that we all came here to see.

P.S. there’s no inherent part of western culture (itself a reification of disparate and divergent cultures depending on the age, location, and groups you look at) that holds that racial groups can practice self determination. But it is interesting that you think western civilization is founded on such curious ideas.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/131 "2010-02-03T11:28:59Z")

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Man I haven’t enjoyed a thread full of the crazy and silliness in ages. The long, drawn out meandering walls of text and False Zionist Ratichrist Killer Marsupial Disrespector Vampire Opposum Worshipping Kenites. I love it! And now for a little anti-Semitic [humor](http://9.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvmobsBLsn1qa7cgco1_500.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/132 "2010-02-03T12:06:31Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> Man I haven’t enjoyed a thread full of the crazy and silliness in ages. The long, drawn out meandering walls of text and False Zionist Ratichrist Killer Marsupial Disrespector Vampire Opposum Worshipping Kenites. I love it! And now for a little anti-Semitic [humor](http://9.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvmobsBLsn1qa7cgco1_500.jpg).

This one is [even better](http://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/the-juice.jpg) (and has the advantage of being real :eek:)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/133 "2010-02-03T12:20:00Z")

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> [@itsmeshh](#):
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> All we ask is thay some of you perhaps do your own research and draw your own **real** conclusions rather than parroting the same canned “ridicule” we’ve seen a million times from those who remain determined to cling to factually-baseless Coincidence Theories rather than legitimately wonder whether they **might** have been deliberately misled all these years by some group of ultra-wealthy Elite whose only use for them is to exploit all of us for as much “cheap labor” as we can provide, with ever-declining wages and dignity for all of us in the long run.

Fascinating! People who fall for delusional Biblical conspiracies deride the rest of us for believing in “Coincidence Theories.” I never knew that. While it’s sometimes tempting to believe your life is part of a larger story, it’s a problem when the proposed story is too stupid for words.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/134 "2010-02-03T12:37:39Z")

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It amazes me as to what some people do to justify hatred.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/135 "2010-02-03T13:19:10Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Yes, as I posted in the other thread:
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> [url=[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12064244&postcount=65](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12064244&postcount=65)]

I just now got the whole Kenites/Barbieites joke! :smack:

Btw, thanks for the link about the Khazars. That’s one of those memes that has gained credence even in non-nutjob circles.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/136 "2010-02-03T13:21:55Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> This one is [even better](http://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/the-juice.jpg) (and has the advantage of being real :eek:)

Hey, a lot of people had problems with the OJ verdict. I can understand that guy’s sentiment, at least.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/137 "2010-02-03T13:31:05Z")

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It’s a word salad of crazy, tossed together with a delightful vinaigrette of unnecessary scare quotes. Piquant, yet surprisingly lacking in substance.

I’ll have the pork chops with blood sauce instead.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/138 "2010-02-03T13:39:31Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> I’ll have the pork chops with blood sauce instead.

Oh yeah? You really think they haven’t heard that one, **Kolga**? “These” people “have” taken their views all “around” the internet, shedding light “on” truths the “coincidence theorist” don’t want to hear, you know. They’ve been made fun of before!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/139 "2010-02-03T14:01:27Z")

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> [@itsmeshh](#):
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> You know the old saying “Truth is stranger than fiction!” don’t you??? I’ll leave you with this famous quotation, especially famous among those who are Students or Professionals of the fields of Science and Technology. To wit:
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> “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”  
> Arthur Schopenhauer  
> German philosopher (1788 – 1860)
> 
> Ridicule all you want, fight if you feel so inclined, just don’t act surprised when this Truth gets to it’s Third Stage.

We’ve already seen those three stages in this case. The truth in question was the idea that white Christian men are _not_ inherently superior to everyone else. First it was ridiculed, then it was violently opposed, and now it is accepted as being self-evident.

The fact that _you_ are personally stuck in stage one does not mean that everyone else hasn’t moved on.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism/527374/140 "2010-02-03T14:06:54Z")

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> [@Mister\_Obvious](#):
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> Abuse of whatever authority a person may hold under God’s Hierarchy in such a manner as **FinnAgain** describd is a serious offense!

Please define what you mean by “God’s Hierachy.”

Are men ranked higher than women?

Christians higher than Jews?

Are, as my cats would have it, felines ranked highest of all?

Do tell oh enlightener of us ignorant masses.

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