# Why are Black Lives Matter activists disrupting Bernie Sanders' appearances and what effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 9, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345 "2015-08-09T00:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/181 "2015-08-18T19:47:45Z")
> [@Andiethewestie](#): > > re-enfranchise those who have lost their right to vote from a felony conviction, I would think that there aren’t enough convicted felons to make their vote be a determining factor in an election. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/182 "2015-08-18T19:54:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > [http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/politics/hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter-meeting/index.html?eref=rss\_topstories](http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/politics/hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter-meeting/index.html?eref=rss_topstories) That wasn’t part of the video. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/183 "2015-08-18T19:55:59Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I would think that there aren’t enough convicted felons to make their vote be a determining factor in an election. So their vote shouldn’t count? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/184 "2015-08-18T20:03:34Z")
> [@Andiethewestie](#): > > So their vote shouldn’t count? I’ve never had a problem with that, but of course I am not a convicted felon. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/185 "2015-08-19T02:16:05Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I’ve never had a problem with that, but of course I am not a convicted felon. Neither am I, but the vast majority of convicted felons are warehoused. The BLM movement wants to see funds go back to community supports instead of the mass infusion of funds to the prison system. > [@](#): > > What we want to see is divestment from the prison-industrial complex and reinvestment into community solutions,” said Yancey, highlighting specifically anti-poverty initiatives. “What we’ve seen back in ’94 was a huge divestment from HUD [U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development] and public housing and an investment into prisons. Seventeen billion was divested from HUD and put into prison construction. That’s not acceptable. That’s not a solution. … That’s what we are talking about when we talk about the need for a new analysis.” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/186 "2015-08-19T02:18:00Z")
Sounds dumb to me. Public housing projects are crime-ridden, miserable places. Putting more money into them isn’t going to make them better places to live if the criminals are allowed to run rampant. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/187 "2015-08-19T02:59:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Sounds dumb to me. Public housing projects are crime-ridden, miserable places. Putting more money into them isn’t going to make them better places to live if the criminals are allowed to run rampant. What part of “need for a new analysis” don’t you understand? The movement doesn’t want to go back to craptastic housing projects of old, but to keep pouring billions into warehousing criminals only helps to continue a cycle of criminal behavior and institutionalized racism. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/188 "2015-08-19T06:09:31Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That depends on how you define laissez-faire and how you define New Dealism. Does it count the parts of the New Deal that were struck down? The parts that went away after WWII? Does it count the Great Society? If you’re arguing that we’d be more prosperous without Medicare, Medicaid, and welfare…😃 Under no definition is Medicare _“laissez-faire.”_ And welfare (AFDC/WIC) is gone. Stop talking like it still exists. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/189 "2015-08-19T11:47:00Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Under no definition is Medicare _“laissez-faire.”_ And welfare (AFDC/WIC) is gone. Stop talking like it still exists. WIC is gone? Somebody better inform my local WIC office! ---
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/190 "2015-08-19T15:17:05Z")
because he is a White liberal racist ? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/191 "2015-08-19T17:41:50Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > WIC is gone? Somebody better inform my local WIC office! Crap. I honestly misremembered. Thanks for pointing that out, I’ve been getting it wrong for years. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/192 "2015-09-14T18:45:05Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Sanders to speak at Liberty University.](http://www.salon.com/2015/08/09/bernie_sanders_is_taking_his_populist_campaign_into_the_beating_heart_of_the_christian_right_liberty_university_partner/) [And does.](http://www.salon.com/2015/09/14/fired_up_bernie_sanders_establishes_common_biblical_ground_with_students_at_conservative_liberty_university/) > [@](#): > > Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders spoke at Liberty University, the conservative Christian institution founded by the Reverend Jerry Falwell, and he wasted no time in making it clear that on issues like abortion and same-sex marriage, they will always “disagree” — but that there’s one issue on which he believes they can find some common ground. > > “Let me respectfully suggest that there are other issues out there that are of enormous consequence to our country and in fact to the entire world that maybe, just maybe, we do not disagree on,” he said. “Maybe, just maybe, we can try to work together in trying to resolve them.” The issue in question is one familiar to anyone following Sanders’ campaign — the concentration of wealth among “the top 1 percent of the 1 percent.” > > “It would be hard to make the case that we are a just society or anything resembling a just society today,” he said. “In the United States of America today, there is massive injustice in terms of income and wealth inequality. Injustice is rampant.” > > Many of these points were met with applause from the largely conservative audience during the speech itself — especially when he quoted directly from the Bible — but the relationship became a little strained during the question-and-answer session. One student asked about the Vermont senator’s statements about children being the most vulnerable members of society, and how he would reconcile that with the belief that “children in the womb need our protection even more.” ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/193 "2015-09-15T15:10:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Sanders to speak at Liberty University. Good find! I noticed that, as the Salon article identifies them, the Christian Right at Liberty University actually allowed Bernie Sanders to exercise his free speech. Something that the BLM activists had refused to do. Christian Right at Liberty University - 1 BLM - 0 \*Liberty University was kind enough to invite me to address a convocation and I decided to accept. …It is very easy for a candidate to speak to people who hold the same views. It’s harder but important to reach out to others who look at the world differently. I look forward to meeting with the students and faculty of Liberty University.\* - Bernie Sanders All lives matter. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/194 "2015-09-15T17:06:30Z")
Forget BLM, good luck for a conservative to be able to speak at all at your average liberal university. Kudos to Liberty for showing other colleges how it’s done. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/195 "2015-11-01T16:24:59Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It seems to me that such actions would drive folks away from their cause. > Perhaps they haven’t thought it out. 🙂 No-look at Pussy Riot. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/196 "2015-11-01T17:48:53Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Sure, and I still think Clinton started the ‘Obama is a Muslim’ thing. But I don’t have any evidence that she did, or that she’s at all involved in this. His middle name is Hussein. It didn’t take Clinton to connect those dots. The usual idiotic right-wing nuts could handle that one all on their own. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345/197 "2015-11-01T17:50:00Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > WIC is gone? Somebody better inform my local WIC office! AFDC is still with us too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-lives-matter-activists-disrupting-bernie-sanders-appearances-and-what-effects/727345.md?page=9)