# Why are black people so LOUD?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625 "2007-04-25T18:06:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/321 "2007-04-30T22:16:59Z")

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[QUOTE=you with the face]  
When it’s not used to convey insult or outright dismissal of another person’s humanity?  
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But how about a casual check of a peer’s social standing? Is that harsh enough to be considered a slur?

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/322 "2007-04-30T22:21:02Z")

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[QUOTE=pizzabrat]  
Most times, I’d say. I can count on one hand (and I’m not exaggerating) the times I’ve been called “nigger” by a black person, and I got pissed off beyond belief each time. Not even in a conscious “that’s a slur and I should be offended” way. The people who are okay with that can have each other, but it doesn’t mean their intentions are different.  
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I’ve been called “nigga” or “nigger” a few times by Black people I don’t know and that is not cool with me. If I know you, then okay. A lot of my friends are fond of saying, “Nigga, please,” which doesn’t bother me in the least. But if we just met, and you’re referring to me as “that nigga over there” or some shit like that, we’re already off on the wrong foot.

If someone younger than me, like a teenager, said it to me, I would take it as an insult, but more of a disrespect thing, like calling a grown man “homey” or some shit like that.

But if I know you and the word comes from your mouth often, no biggie.

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**Author:** ![Roonwit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@Roonwit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roonwit)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/323 "2007-04-30T22:57:27Z")

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Jesus. I’m glad ‘redneck white boy’ ain’t got this many rules to keep up with. 😉

[QUOTE=Askia]  
[W]hen people around you are engaged in detrimental, toxic or self destructive behavior you would do well to remember that all your skinfolks ain’t your kinfolks.  
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Man, this is priceless. Can we make this the National Slogan, or something?

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/324 "2007-05-01T04:14:43Z")

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Damn … I hate seeing the “n word” used so much in this thread. I realize it’s in context, but … gawd, that’s an ugly word. ☹

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/325 "2007-05-01T17:22:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Hippy Hollow]  
If someone younger than me, like a teenager, said it to me, I would take it as an insult, but more of a disrespect thing, like calling a grown man “homey” or some shit like that.  
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You’re gonna grow up to be one cranky old man, mr. Hollow. I like it when I can still get away with being called “holmes.”

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**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/326 "2007-05-01T21:49:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Colibri]  
People from lower socioeconomic groups may, however, be less inhibited about being loud.  
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Exactly. Boorish group behavior tends to come from from this quarter. When is the last time you saw people in expensive suits yelling “Oh no he didn’t!” at the top of their lungs?

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/327 "2007-05-01T21:50:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil One]  
Exactly. Boorish group behavior tends to come from from this quarter. When is the last time you saw people in expensive suits yelling “Oh no he didn’t!” at the top of their lungs?  
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In NYC, I see people in suits behaving like utter boors _all the time_, including shouting much worse things than mere disbelief at the top of their lungs.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/328 "2007-05-02T03:15:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Ensign Edison]  
In NYC, I see people in suits behaving like utter boors _all the time_, including shouting much worse things than mere disbelief at the top of their lungs.  
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Amen. Just the other day there were 5 or 6 guys in a convenience store who had clearly come from a frat formal. They pulled up in a brand new black Jeep and a brand new black Explorer, were all wearing suits, walked into the store, and immediately started acting like complete savages. Screaming, hooting, swearing…I couldn’t believe it. When they finally left, the woman behind the counter said to me “be thankful you don’t have to deal with these guys every day.” I told her that they just don’t know what it’s like to have to work for a living.

I’d never before seen such utter disrespect for a business establishment before.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/329 "2007-05-02T20:31:41Z")

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[QUOTE=elmwood]  
Damn … I hate seeing the “n word” used so much in this thread. I realize it’s in context, but … gawd, that’s an ugly word. ☹  
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Jesus, not you with your dainty sensibilities again. Aren’t they expecting you back in Teletubbyland?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2007, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/330 "2007-05-03T01:58:14Z")

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**elmwood** , I believe I have confused you with a different poster. Apologies and please disregard.

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**Author:** ![pmitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pmitch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pmitch)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/331 "2013-04-18T03:58:54Z")

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Based on personal experience, black people are generally loud-- it’s a racial stereotype, but stereotypes exist because something happens often enough that we start to assume it’s almost always true. In my experience, stupid people tend to be louder than smart people. When you don’t have the power of language, it’s a lot easier to raise your voice and use plenty of curse words to convey your message. It’s been my experience that rednecks, poor Hispanic kids, and punk-ish Asian kids generally behave with the same lack of decency and manners. It’s not money or race that seems to make the difference, it’s education.  
“I’m sorry you were raised so poorly that you don’t have any manners and are socially inept, but that’s not an excuse for being so.”

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**Author:** ![pmitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pmitch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pmitch)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/332 "2013-04-18T04:02:09Z")

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pok

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/333 "2013-04-18T04:03:07Z")

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What a privilege it is to be first to declare you a flaming asshole.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/334 "2013-04-18T04:04:39Z")

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:rolleyes: What is it about April?

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/335 "2013-04-18T04:06:18Z")

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Americans as a whole are louder than everyone else on Earth, topping that list would be young American women. Everyone else on the planet are minor percentages in volume compared to them.

Arguing about blacks in America being loud is just irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/336 "2013-04-18T04:55:32Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> :rolleyes: What is it about April?

Do you know who also had a birthday in April?

Or 420.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/337 "2013-04-18T05:25:28Z")

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> [@pmitch](#):
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> Based on personal experience, black people are generally loud-- it’s a racial stereotype, but stereotypes exist because something happens often enough that we start to assume it’s almost always true. In my experience, stupid people tend to be louder than smart people. When you don’t have the power of language, it’s a lot easier to raise your voice and use plenty of curse words to convey your message. It’s been my experience that rednecks, poor Hispanic kids, and punk-ish Asian kids generally behave with the same lack of decency and manners. It’s not money or race that seems to make the difference, it’s education.  
> “I’m sorry you were raised so poorly that you don’t have any manners and are socially inept, but that’s not an excuse for being so.”

I’m sure you’d have posted your “thoughts” on the matter 6 years ago when this thread originated except you were only 7 years old at the time. I merely deduced this from your post; I’m not ruling out the possibility that you were younger.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/338 "2013-04-18T06:52:47Z")

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Soooooo… loud people are stupid?? HUH, BUDDY!!! 😃

To the dumbfuck OP and the fuckwad pmitch, do you think loud people are loud all the time?? Like they sing lullabies like, “LULLABY!!! AND GOODNIGHT!!!”???

Fucking April.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/339 "2013-04-18T07:34:24Z")

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After taking a few minutes to search online (yeah I know, we’re talking _serious research_ here), I’ve come to 3 conclusions.

[ul]  
[li]Black people are apparently often characterized as “loud”, by blacks and whites alike.[/li][li]Some people think that’s good ("In your _face!"_), some people think that’s bad (“Shut up!”).[/li][li]I can’t find any studies as to whether or not it’s actually true.[/li][/ul]  
And it is in theory _possibly_ true you know; speech patterns are a cultural matter, not a biological one. Although it’s somewhat telling that the claim is always structured as “black people are too loud”, and never “white people are too quiet”.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-black-people-so-loud/401625/340 "2013-04-18T07:59:32Z")

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I’d just like to say the long-departed OP of this thread inspired some of my best work on this board.

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