There is plenty of room for discussion of these issues.
But if someone says, “Transwomen aren’t women” they aren’t looking to debate the nuance of the issue.
Indeed. They are disagreeing with the holy catechism and must be punished.
I figured out your problem.
You are a piece of shit, and you say shitty things. But you think that people shouldn’t hold that against you, and that they should be nice and be your friends.
You refuse to accept that there are consequences for being a piece of shit and saying shitty things, and think that it is persecution that no one likes you.
That would certainly be better for your argument than if people were to actually read the linked articles.
It took you that long??
If you’re losing friends because you’re saying bigoted bullshit now, you would have lost them before. Nothing has changed on that front.
Unless what you’re saying is that, to date, you pretended to be a decent person in public but were a total shit online, and only nowadays has the stench of your internet presence begun to be noticed by the people around you in meatspace.
You ninja’d me, but here was my take:
I grew up in a very integrated area at a time when race relations were particularly hot. Decades later, I still vividly recall white men saying, “I don’t even know what ‘you people’ want to be called any more: is it black ? Colored ? Afro-American ? African-American ?? I can’t keep up.”
Remarkably like the keyboard study.*
I’ve never had trouble keeping up with what people prefer to be called, though I do slip occasionally.
Seriously, tell me about this ‘secular catechism’! If it is just “if thou beest a piece of shit, people will notice and treat you like the piece of shit you are maybe”, then I will be deeply disappointed.
But put that aside, I really want to hear about the secular “original sin”.
of course it exists.
Just look at Colin Kaepernick.
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Thank you for that. As @WalterBishop can now see, you have no interest in nuanced debate, but only to spew your hatred.
…are bad, sure. But they’re also pretty predictable, and always have been.
If you say something that embarrasses or discredits your employer, you’re very likely to lose your job.
If you say something that offends or insults your friends, you’re quite likely to lose your friends.
If you say something that is despicable or contemptible, you’re likely to lose respect from people around you in general.
When has this ever been different? The only thing that’s substantially different now, other than the unprecedented scope and speed of disseminating remarks on social media, is that now you can actually seriously embarrass, offend or disgust large numbers of people by denigrating and disrespecting historically disprivileged and marginalized groups.
That’s new, to a large extent. That’s what’s producing all this “chilling effect” among so many people who have always taken it for granted that disparaging marginalized groups is inherently consequence-free.
I knew he was a piece of shit without friends.
I just thought that that was his choice, I didn’t realize just how lonely he must be, and how angry that loneliness must make him.
Yep.
It’s the old “I want to be able to spew my hateful ignorance, and if you point out how hateful and ignorant it is, then you are a Bad Man, and I am being cancelled.”
It’s bullshit.
The problem is authoritarians such as the nuts of the far left that think that as long as the state is not passing laws to outlaw certain expression and that silencing folks is happening because of tremendous corporate power or violent mobs of anarchists that the actions are not illiberal.
You folks would be perfectly at home in the easily manipulated mobs during the Reign of Terror under Robespierre or in the unthinking mobs of Mao during the struggle sessions. You folks have no guiding principles other than exploiting the aspects of social justice that superficially sound good in order to enact your own illiberal and bigoted institutions of power.
“When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression.”
No, I don’t think that that’s the problem.
I think the problem is that you’ve gone far too long without a hug, because no one likes you, and you hate them for it.
I feel for you, I truly do, but you are the only one that can change you. No one else can do it for you.
You forgot that equality is now anachronistic. It’s now unachievable equity.
This would be way more convincing if you were not wholly supportive of your own side doing the things you criticize your fictionalized vision of the left for.
Oh! You told me!
You can’t find a single example of me being in favor of censorship or violently assaulting a person or looting or arson. That’s the left.