# Why Are Conservatives So Evil? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2001, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655 "2001-09-19T19:57:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JDM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@JDM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDM)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/1 "2001-09-19T19:57:20Z")
[http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php3?table=old§ion=current&issue=2001-09-15&id=1081](http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php3?table=old§ion=current&issue=2001-09-15&id=1081) There’s a lot of stuff that I find disgusting in this article but when he uses the WTC horror as an excuse to attack people in wheelchairs (paragraph 4) I really can’t understand it. I know that the conservatives will band behind him for flying in the face of “political correctness” like they banded together to attack Evan Gahr: ( [http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2001/05/25/105.html](http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2001/05/25/105.html) ) but I still have to ask- are there no depths to which you will not sink? Have you no shame? This guy belongs in The National Review, alongside Ann Coulter: [http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter091301.shtml](http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter091301.shtml). Let’s hear your defense, Wildest Bill and the rest! JDM ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/2 "2001-09-19T20:11:45Z")
Why are posters who only have initials for usernames so stupid? ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/3 "2001-09-19T20:16:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JDM \* > **I know that the conservatives will band behind him for flying in the face of “political correctness”…** You know that, huh? Do you “know” the the Bob Dole mentioned in the article as the sponsor of the Americans with Disabilities Act is the _very same_ Bob Dole that ran for President of the United States as a Republican? It boggles the mind! ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/4 "2001-09-19T20:18:37Z")
**IANAC** However, in the last week I’ve seen moronic pieces of drivel similar to this from just about every corner of the political spectrum. Plenty right on this board, in fact. Conservatives haven’t cornered a market on assinine behavior. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/5 "2001-09-19T20:36:37Z")
Good Lord. I tell you what, JDM; if you’ll stop going off about conservatives being ‘evil’ because you found one offensive article in a right-wing British magazine, I won’t bother to talk about how liberals are ‘evil’ because of articles I’ve seen regarding how the 5000 who died deserved to because the U.S. foreswore Kyoto and/or drive SUVS and/or supported Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Danimal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Danimal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danimal)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/6 "2001-09-19T20:38:56Z")
In case anyone’s curious, this is the passage that **JDM** apparently considers “to attack people in wheelchairs.” > [@](#): > > The post-Cold War interlude is over, an era of follies — OJ, Monica — and fatuities, a few of which Tuesday’s horror stories cruelly underlined: employees in wheelchairs, whom Bob Dole’s Americans with Disabilities Act and the various lobby groups insist can do anything able-bodied people can, found themselves trapped on the 80th floor, unable to get downstairs, unable even to do as others did and hurl themselves from the windows rather than be burned alive. _The American Spectator_ does not reflect well on conservatism, IMO; its editorial and intellectual standards are low, especially compared to _National Review_. The above, however, is far from the most egregious example. Judging conservatives by the contents of _The American Spectator_ is like judging liberals by the editorials of Molly Ivins. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/7 "2001-09-19T20:41:45Z")
Just curious, John Corrado. What liberals have advanced the notion that the 5000 deserved to die? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/8 "2001-09-19T20:44:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Demise \* > \*\* > You know that, huh? Do you “know” the the Bob Dole mentioned in the article as the sponsor of the Americans with Disabilities Act is the _very same_ Bob Dole that ran for President of the United States as a Republican? It boggles the mind! \*\* More amazingly, that Bob Dole is HIMSELF disabled! Yet, other conservatives still let him run for president instead of beating him to death with sticks! I tell you, it boggles the mind. Danimal, that wasn’t even the American Spectator. It was a British magazine. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/9 "2001-09-19T20:49:50Z")
**ruadh** - just off the top of my head, Derrick Z. Jackson of the [Boston Globe](http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/262/oped/Sticky_questions_for_the_elite+.shtml) states today: “God cannot be all that happy with a nation that is 5 percent of the world’s population, produces a quarter of Earth’s carbon dioxide emissions, yet walks out of global warming talks.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/10 "2001-09-19T20:55:47Z")
To that, John, I would add that the Indiana Daily Student, the student newspaper of Indiana University, has run a number of letters implying that the U.S. got what it deserved in last week’s attacks. ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/11 "2001-09-19T20:56:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JDM \* > > Let’s hear your defense, Wildest Bill and the rest! > JDM \*\* How come I always get singled out? ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/12 "2001-09-19T21:08:13Z")
Wildest Bill wrote: > [@](#): > > How come I always get singled out? Oh, no reason … \ ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/13 "2001-09-19T21:12:17Z")
You’ll have to do better than that, John. In no way does that article suggest that the victims deserved it. And Peyote Coyote, how’s about a link? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/14 "2001-09-19T21:23:09Z")
Ruadh: The location of the IDS is [http://www.idsnews.com](http://www.idsnews.com). I am not posting a link because none of the letters in today’s edition contained such a suggestion, and the IDS apparently only places letters of the day in the site. At least, a cursory inspection of the site did not uncover yesterday’s letters, one of which, indeed, blamed the U.S. totally for the attack. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/15 "2001-09-19T21:27:04Z")
My apologies, ruadh; I had assumed that if people were offended by Falwell and Robertson saying that God let the terrorist strike happen because we accept homosexuality, they’d be equally offended by someone saying that God let the terrorist strike happen because we drive SUVs. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/16 "2001-09-19T21:33:41Z")
I guess I’m reading that article differently than you are, John. The preceding paragraph simply asks whether God “bless[es] our way of life”. There is no suggestion that God used the attacks as punishment, a la Robertson and Falwell. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/17 "2001-09-19T21:41:22Z")
**xeno** : 😃 **ruadh** : How about [Michael Moore](http://www.michaelmoore.com/2001_0912.html) stating: > [@](#): > > We have orphaned so many children, tens of thousands around the world, with our taxpayer-funded terrorism (in Chile, in Vietnam, in Gaza, in Salvador) that I suppose we shouldn’t be too surprised when those orphans grow up and are a little whacked in the head from the horror we have helped cause . . . Will we ever get to the point that we realize we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn’t living in poverty so we can have nice running shoes? ---
**Author:** ![Bomzaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Bomzaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bomzaway)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/18 "2001-09-19T21:49:25Z")
Examples of Evil American Conservatives? Koresh McVeigh Examples of Evil American Liberals? I don’t mean to make this a bash on conservatives, but I honestly can’t think of any Evil Liberals. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/19 "2001-09-19T21:52:20Z")
pldennison, no, sorry, that doesn’t work either. Saying we shouldn’t be surprised that people are pissed off at the US is **not** the same thing as saying 5000 innocent people (many of whom were not Americans) **deserved** to die. I can’t believe intelligent posters are making this false equation. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655/20 "2001-09-19T21:58:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bomzaway \* > \*\*Examples of Evil American Conservatives? > > Koresh > McVeigh\*\* How are David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh (or how WERE they, I guess) conservatives? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-conservatives-so-evil/82655.md?page=2)