# Why are Democrats being blamed for the shutdown? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 8, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788 "2025-10-08T17:11:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/461 "2025-11-15T20:30:19Z")
> [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > First of all, most voters are either not going to know or care about what happened with the shutdown, It was on every news channel 24/7, and polls show the people mostly blame the GOP. > [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > . Now they didn’t deliver anything. And of course it was ambitious of the Democrats to try to deliver those healthcare savings but if they had simply not tried they wouldn’t have to explain how they didn’t succeed. Wrong- it will now be clear that the GOP did a sneaky secret kill of ACA. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/462 "2025-11-15T20:34:59Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It was on every news channel 24/7, and polls show the people mostly blame the GOP. On election day in 2024 people were googling to figure out who kamala harris was and why biden wasn’t on the ballot. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/463 "2025-11-15T20:37:23Z")
> [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > On election day in 2024 people were googling to figure out who kamala harris was and why biden wasn’t on the ballot. So? There is always someone, somewhere who is clueless. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/464 "2025-11-15T20:37:51Z")
There are actually a lot of someones. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/465 "2025-11-16T01:56:39Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It was on every news channel 24/7, and polls show the people mostly blame the GOP. There are still a large number of folk in the few swing states who will contiue to vote R, no matter how badly R policies affect them. Like **DeadTreas** says, a WHOLE LOT of someones. The only hope is that there are enough not entirely braindead R voters who can be swayed - or encouraged to stay home. Or enough lazy stupid D leaners in those same few states who can be convinced to make the supreme effort of filling out a mail ballot. So fucking infuriating that having a DECENT society - not even the wonderful society our wealthy country can easily afford - depends on that. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/466 "2025-11-16T04:37:12Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > There are still a large number of folk in the few swing states who will contiue to vote R, no matter how badly R policies affect them. Of course there are. But as we have seen in the last three presidential elections, just 2% going from one party to the other can change the election. We dont need trump & the GOP to lose 20% of their voters, in fact all we need is a couple % of GOP voters to stay home in disgust and a couple % of Indy voters to come to the Dems. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/467 "2025-12-17T02:17:55Z")
> **[House Republican leaders ditch vote on ACA funding, all but ensuring premiums...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna249521)** > > Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said Republicans worked on the issue throughout the weekend but could not come to an agreement with a group of members who want the funds extended. [![](https://en.meming.world/images/en/6/6e/Surprised_Pikachu.jpg) ](https://en.meming.world/images/en/6/6e/Surprised_Pikachu.jpg) Who could have known?! ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/468 "2025-12-17T13:16:12Z")
What a crazy, unforeseen development! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/469 "2025-12-17T17:06:15Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > What a crazy, unforeseen development Here’s an even crazier one: four Republican representatives broke ranks with Mike Johnson, and joined the Democrats to force a vote on a three-year extension to the expanded ACA subsidies. However, it looks like such a vote won’t occur before the new year, and it’s not clear if it would pass the Senate, anyway. > **[4 Republicans defy Speaker Johnson to force House vote on extending ACA...](https://apnews.com/article/health-care-subsidies-aca-speaker-johnson-1087a9f64168d66b2acf9082af16c253)** > > Four centrist Republicans have broken with their party's leadership over health care. They've signed onto a Democratic-led petition that will force a House vote on extending for three years an enhanced pandemic-era subsidy that lowers health... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/470 "2025-12-17T18:25:19Z")
Four Republicans can feel which way the wind is shifting. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788/471 "2025-12-17T20:21:06Z")
Oh more than that but four had the cojones to put their votes on it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-democrats-being-blamed-for-the-shutdown/1023788.md?page=23)