Why are Hollanders/Netherlands natives called "Dutch"?

I’ve been to Holland many times. :slight_smile:
I have yet to find a Dutch person who didn’t speak English. They all enjoy practising their English with me - and never correct me when I say ‘Holland’. :cool:

Some anecdotes:

  • I used to ask at Amsterdam station for a one-way ticket to Beverwijk in English; they would tell me the price in English.
    Once I learnt by heart the Dutch for ‘single ticket to Beverwijk’. When I reached the ticket window and spoke my piece, without hesitating they told me the price in English! :eek:

  • there’s a chess opening variation named after a town in Holland (Scheveningen).
    In conversation with a Dutch family I mentioned this. They just looked blank. When I spelt it, they laughed and pronounced it with an indescribable guttural throat noise. :smack:

My grandparents don’t speak English. PM me next time you come over so I can introduce you to some genuine non-Englishspeaking Dutch :smiley:

I actually think this is pretty rude, I wish we didn’t do that so much. Most foreigners here don’t bother investing in the Dutch language the least bit, but those that do should at least be replied to in (simple, slowly pronounced) Dutch. This never happens, though, and many expats I know complain bitterly that they’re never going to learn Dutch if the Dutch won’t let them practice.

Thanks for the correction. I was given “Vlaamings” for the language by sources I thought reliable; I was misinformed. (I came here for the waters, anyway.)

You finally got to the important information! :slight_smile:

Made me think;

Ned Nederlander (Martin Short’s character in The Three Amigos)
Ned Flanders (from The Simpsons)

Coincidence? I think not!

Švejk, this may be as good a place as any to ask; where did you learn to write English so well? You are native Dutch, right? Please tell me it isn’t just highschool English.

Maastricht, I always heard that most Limburgers didn’t consider themselves all that Dutch, identifying more with the Germans or the Belgians.

One Limburger of my acquantance informed me that she didn’t even celebrate the Queen’s birthday, as that was an activity for Hollanders!

Can you weigh in on that one?

Dank U wel!

Not really. While the official - and more popular - name is “Nederland” (the Netherlands), “Holland” is commonly used too, especially when football (soccer for you Americans) is involved. I guess because it’s easier to shout.

Part of the reason may be that the North- and South-Holland provinces (together with Utrecht) are quite influential culturally. Another part may be that the name “Holland” isn’t commonly seen as denoting any particular region (probably because there isn’t a single “Holland” province).

I don’t know anybody who celebrates the Queen’s birthday on the day. Quite a lot of people celebrate Queensday, though - but that

  1. Isn’t actually celebrated on the queen’s birthday

  2. Involves gigantic amounts of booze, drugs, noise, selling whatever crap you’ve got laying around in the attic and lots of tourists.

Well Ned, no one here thought you would!

Unlike Hollandaise sauce.

Im from Maastricht as well,(the city not the Doper) so maybe I can help
The southen provences are mostly Catholic, so they celebrate carnaval, which involves a lot of drinking, partying and dressing up in colourfull clothing. The Northern provinces are Protestant and not aloud the celbrate carnival, so they use queensday to have their own party, involving drinking partying and dressing up in colourful clothing (only orange but still), and being born traders they added freemarkets,

Some Limburgers celebrate queensday, but the most of us have a hangover from carnival

“Graag gedaan”

I enjoy the fact that there’s a region of the Earth known as “The Netherlands.” I imagine a vast, swampy forest populated by trolls and pixies.

I used to play a RPG game that had a underworld where all the deamons and the dead lived called: “The Netherlands”…not sure if it was a D&D setting

One million? I guess yet another massive exaggeration by enthusiast supporters of the local language. Flemish is almost extinct in France. They must count everybody whose grandmother once used a Flemish word…

Well of all the countries in the AmericaS, the United States is officially the United States of America. Other countries don’t use the word America in their name. So it makes sense to use America to refer to the United States OF America.

Also why “The Czech Republic.” Why not Czechland or Czechia?

The Czech government has tried to popularize Czechia, with some success in other languages such as French, Russian, and German. For some reason, though, it hasn’t caught on in English yet.

Because they never pay for their dates’ dinners.

Not to be confused with the Nether regions, although sometimes not different by so much.