So we all stick together and think were the only ones with struggles? But you don’t have an anti Semitic bone in your body . I was not aware that we think we are the only ones with struggles, as a matter of fact Jews are on the forefront of those who are oppressed…I sometimes wonder if the reason jews are such high achievers is because throughout history we have been victimized and perhaps the strongest survived?
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So they are not any smarter they just stay together and will make sure a jew gets higher up the latter before anyone else even if they are more qualified…
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Interesting. Do you have any proof for this?
I think all the Jewish freedom riders and civil rights activists, some who died in the segregationed south, would have issues with our new posters premise that they only care about their own struggles. Look up the poem/song “Strange Fruit”. And incredibly important take on Southern violence against blacks. It was written by a NYC Jewish school teacher.
I love the idea that Holocaust victims “felt” suppressed, as if that wasn’t real.
I swear, there is so much fail in that post, from facts, to history, to grammar (latter?), where to begin?
Help help, I’m being suppressed!
But not nearly as much as the white, Christian, heterosexual male. They know suffering.
But just imagine if you were a giant Israel. Every step you took would cause earthquakes and kill thousands. You could crush all before you and became lord of the earth!
Then I suggest you stick together with others who who are suppressed and maybe you can rise above in art, science, music and medicine, just like the jews
Here’s some food for thought what if them being Jews has no bearing on whether or not they are successful. You know maybe they work hard or something.
Can I ask a question?
In the “Does society have a skewed view on what constitutes a good income?” thread, I relayed this anecdote:
When I asked her why she thought her grandchildren were so mediocre, I expected to hear the “normal” complaints of older people. Like kids today are spoiled and don’t know the meaning of hard work.
But what she said raised an eyebrow. She blamed her grandchildren’s mediocrity on the fact her son-in-law isn’t Jewish. Or rather, that he wasn’t born Jewish. He converted before marrying his wife (her daughter).
Ouch. I mean, not only does it must suck to have your mother-in-law think your mediocrity has tainted her progeny, but that she’d also be…I don’t know what the right word is. A culture snob? But it seems to me it’s more than snobbery. I can’t imagine anyone else saying something like this without coming across as bigoted. But the way she said it, it was like she expected me to say, “Of course! We goyim ARE stupid. Please forgive us.”
Is this a widespread belief amongst Jewish people, that marrying gentiles or converts threatens Jewish achievement? Or is this woman an analomy?
Yes, this woman is an anomaly.
This goyim IS stupid. Please forgive me. :smack:
But seriously, I’ve never, ever heard that sentiment before.
That’s terrible. Obviously there are chauvinist Jews out there like with any other group but most of us would find her views to be disgusting.
I’ve known Jews who bought into what can be called perhaps “Jewish exceptionalism” … fewer now than in my Dad’s generation (and he was one) … in fact I don’t know any right now even though I am sure they exist. I put it as a reaction to the times in which overt anti-Semitism including that much less severe than the Holocaust but very pervasive was endemic.
It does not excuse it btw.
OK.
(I will point out amidst the forgiveness that goyim is the plural of goy. 
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Having a particularly high level of cognitive ability is a major factor.
Yeah, we’re better than that.
Sounds like the mother in law from hell. 
The sentiment isn’t unfamiliar to me, but not because of the Jewish thing. My father is not Jewish, he comes from a very high-achieving family … my mother is Jewish, and her family also has a tradition of achievement. Growing up, we kids definitely got the message that achievement was expected of us - not because of our culture, but because of our family background.
…they come from other places, too?
~rimshot~