I am not personally recruiting, but I will mine with you and introduce you to the powers that be in my corp, and if you are a fit we can see how it shakes out =)
I won’t lie, right now there is a war raging in our 0.0 system which is why I am currently mining in hi sec for our ship replacement program [so pretty much everything i mine goes to the alliance instead of me selling it for obscene profit]
I am pretty much always in “Bam’s Spot”, in game I go by Aruvqan just like here =)
And Babydoll’s fit is:
whichever miners you want, i use it both ore and ice in low sec, screw the mack it isnt tanky enough.
1 caldari navy heat dissipation amplifier
1 caldari navy kinetic deflection amplifier
1 gistii b-type small shield booster
1 invulnerability field 2
2 expanded cargohold 2
1 medium capacitor control circuit 1
1 medium cargohold optimization 1
drones - i hate mining drones and tend to run hammerhead 2s
You know, a lot of the arguments in this thread are a bit disturbing. The same sort of sweeping “logic” could just as easily apply to questions like “Why are women unsuccessful at business?” or “Why don’t women make good scientists?”
Women have competitive urges. Guys have cooperative urges. Guys can play Sudoku and Bejeweled; girls can play WoW and FPS games.
I’m a female; I like competitive gameplay with cooperative elements (e.g. TF2, L4D, Counter-Strike, etc.). The person I game with most likes competitive gameplay with cooperative elements, too. Guess what? He’s male.
I think a lot of you folks are making some pretty broad assumptions about women and their innate motivations. Culturally, there has been a divide between women and men when it comes to gaming; can’t we accept this is more likely than ‘women just don’t like to compete’-type arguments?
Take a step back from video games and look at other gaming behaviors. Can you say that women in general are not competitive with, say, cards or board games? I haven’t found that to be the case, and I’ve played games with a lot of people. For people equally familiar and skilled with the game, there’s not a huge aggression/competition gap.
What might help with this is a demographic study of younger vs. older gamers, as younger cohorts are more likely to have less cultural conditioning away from girls-playing-video-games.
Also, my experience is pretty much opposite of yours–males are FAR more competitive, in general and in my social group, at card and board games as well. The sole exception, so far that I’ve found, is cooperative/competitive mergers–so much so that, as an example, my brother’s wife and her cousins will only play Scattergories or other trivia games with us if they can play on teams (and this is despite the fact that sis-in-law is a doctor and has more education than he and I put together, so it’s not a “ability balancing” thing)–it’s no fun for any of them unless they have teammates. It could easily still be differential socialization, but that just changes the OP statement to “why are males better at competitive gaming in this culture?”
Yep. It smells a lot like anecdotal data in here. Whoever quoted Sturgeon’s Law might be onto something, with the male population being that much bigger than the female one.
This is more or less the current situation in our system.
The rough totals for a 300+ ship fleet were 11 titans, 10 supercaps, 40 dreads, assorted carriers, a bunch of BS and assorted tackler frigates, stealthies, Em, reppers and whatever the cat drug in that would fly and could have weapons duct taped on.
I have been working on the test server again sussing out the planetary harvesting. Made up a 26 piccy slideshow of what I have so far =)
They can but they generally don’t. Yes, there are lots of guys who play Sudoku, but in my years of experience selling electronic Sudoku puzzles to people, over 95% of the people purchasing them are female. Similarly, all those “Take 5” and “Real Life” magazines which have Sudoku puzzles in them are aimed at… women. Everyone knows there are lots of women playing WoW, but I’m not aware of many playing Fallout 3 or Empire: Total War.
That isn’t the issue though, not if we want to stick with the OP. The issue is not “why aren’t females more into competitive video games.” it’s “why aren’t the females that are into competitive video games as good as males.”
I know its not a gaming answer, but this book goes into huge detail about competition on many levels and has hundreds if not thousands of studies to back it up.
it hasnt made me want to stop ganking Fools online but it does go a long way towards explaining the way a lot of people feel about competition in general.
It’s my experience as well. However, when I looked up the top players for a game that was IME dominated by women (Scrabble), the champs were overwhelmingly male. I’m guessing that with other games listed in this thread that supposedly are mostly played by women, such as Bejeweled, Sudoku, that if there’s an online list somewhere with official champs, these champs will mostly be male.
I think the question could be rephrased: “Why are the members of a subset of human males willing to spend time on meaningless accomplishments derived from games?” Good question for the guys who wrote Freakonomics.
This implies a false equivalence. Women do have competitive urges. Guys have more competitive urges. To me the reason is painfully obvious: competitive urges are driven by testosterone. Women have testosterone, but men have more. Same thing with sex drive. Many women like to claim that women have the same sex drive as men, but they just don’t; sex drive is driven by testosterone.
Really? If people take issue with my opinion that competitiveness is driven by testosterone, surely we can all agree that aggression is driven by testosterone. And again, men have more. I’m frankly stunned that you think the sexes are equal in terms of aggression.