Why are military pilots only officers?

I’m currently a Naval Flight Officer/Senior Evaluator/Mission Commander, and I’d have to disagree on a couple points here. The job is all about responsibility. The days of the rogue pilot who doesn’t adhere to some sort of notion of responsibility are long gone. You may have the oddball here and there, like the idiot Buff driver who crashed his plane at the air show, but overall, the services are looking for aviators who can lead. This requires responsibility. You aren’t going to make it through flight school–API, primary, intermediate, and advanced, without some sort of responsibility getting ingrained into you. You aren’t going to succeed in your first command as a flyer without it.

As for getting pilots from the Academies, well, they’re (arguably) the toughest way to get into the military. You have to be able to handle tough classes and absorb a lot of information quickly and be able to regurgitate it quickly (and I’m basing this off of the Naval Academy–not sure how the AF Academy is, but I’m guessing that principle applies). You have to be able to thrive in a military environment and operate well under large amounts of stress. These are all critical skills of being a pilot. In addition, the academies have strict minimum requirements for math, which doesn’t apply for some ROTC/OCS folks (good math skills are a big plus for aviators). Why not give the academies the first picks of the litter?

And generally speaking, you have to give the pilot a lot of responsibility. This is why you have plenty of pilots who aren’t considered “great” sticks still advancing to command positions. You also have to consider, as has been said, that many pilots will be commanding missions of multi-crew aircraft, and he’ll be in charge of every aspect of that mission, to include deployments, tactical flights, mission preparation & briefings, post-mission reports, debriefings, etc. Try doing this for a 24-crew aircraft for a multi-month deployment to a remote forward operating base. Very demanding. The flying monkey skills are completely secondary at that point. You need to be responsible and you need to make decisions based on the big picture–understand the current military climate, the tactical environment, understand world events, understand your target country and their practices, understand military regulations and the chain of command, and understand how to lead, motivate, and direct your crew. You rarely see enlisted guys with that kind of broad expertise–usually their skills are more focused and deeper in that focus than an officer’s.

Now, you do have the warrants in the Army and (now) Navy doing pilot work, but AFAIK they’re very dedicated to flying-only/training duties and not in charge of anything more than operating the aircraft when directed. There is a reason their numbers are few and far between in the Navy. As for the Army, I can’t speak.

It’s hard to get all the way through ROTC/OTS/OCS/Academy without some measure of responsibility or at the very least, the recognized potential for it. And, your statement of “All you need to become an officer is to have a degree in anything” is way misguided. If my post sounds at all snarky, it’s because that line pissed me off. At least, that’s my $.02 from this side of the fence.

Does one really have to be all that smart to fly a F-16, or any other modern jet? I’ve always assuned so, but upon reflection Ican’t think why. It seems like a largely mechanical exercise from the outside.
So, what’s so hard, intellectually, about being a pilot?
This is in no way a (negative) criticism, but a real question.

For one thing, you have to have a solid understanding of flying (aerodynamics, weather, various types of approaches, flight regulations, airspace structure, comms, etc). Then you have to have a very solid understanding of your aircraft–both the normal systems (power, avionics, electric, hydraulic, etc), weapons systems, and flight characteristics (operating speeds, etc). Then you have to have a large volume of data memorized about emergency procedures–memorized to the point of knowing them cold and being able to actually do the procedures in the aircraft under stress. You have to be able to integrate all of this in the air. That’s just for starters. I could probably think of more if I gave it a few minutes.

I think what mangeorge is asking is, can a not-so-bright guy fly – period – a modern aircraft, not whether he’d be a good pilot.

The Mythbusters did manage to land a simulation airliner. They’re bright guys, though, albeit without any benefit of training.

I remember seeing an ad for the Air Force a while back, and the F16 was clearly labeled as being flown by a staff sergeant.

One of my co-workers was a regular Marine before and during WWII, and an aviator. He was enlisted and was offered a reserve commission to 2nd Lt. He refused, on the grounds it was insulting to a regular, professional Marine to be offered a reserve commission. He was eventually evacuated due to illness, and much to his surprize, he was told he was being given a commision as a 1st Lt. in the regular Marines. He was always convinced that the regular commission was correct, but the 1st Lt. was a mistake.

His take on the whole enlisted vs officer was very simple - they paid enlisted men less, it was cheaper to quarter enlisted men, and they were also expected to do all sorts of duty that would not be expected of an officer.

I spent my whole Navy enlistment driving Marines around. There were around 900 of them assigned to my ship. The Marine officer/enlisted relationship is like no other service. The doctrine that “Every Marine is a rifleman” is true. As far as I know, “fragging” was rare to non-existant in the Marine Corps in Vietnam.
I’ve wandered a little off-topic, haven’t I? Sorry. :slight_smile:

You may have seen a Staff Sgt’s name on the plane, but he was much more likely the plane captain (they guy in charge of the hardware), rather than the pilot.

I don’t believe that you’re correct about the USCG. The coxwains of Coast Guard patrol boats (less than 65 feet) would generally be petty officers. Coast Guard Cutters (65 feet or longer) are usually commanded by commissioned officers, but some are commanded by chief petty pfficers (or senior/master chiefs) [example: USCGC Beluga, commanded by a Senior Chief).

That’s correct. Coast Guard small boats (vessels < 65’) are run by coxswains who are normally E4-E6 Boatswain’s Mates. However, you can and sometimes see coxswains who are E3s (Seaman). E2/Seaman Apprentice coxswains, especially aboard cutter small boats, were not that uncommon back in the day, but it’s rare these days owing to the amount of prerequisite training that’s now required. I first qualified as a cutter small boat coxswain as an E2 back in 1991. Additionally, any rate can qualify as a coxswain, but being a coxswain is a part of the BM rating.

Cutters less than 100’ are generally run by enlisted Officers in Charge, such as the 87’ patrol boats, 75’ river tenders, and 65’ harbor tugs. I know of one E8 who commanded a 110’ patrol boat, but this was an unusual circumstance and is not the norm. 110s are normally an LT (03) billet.

Additionally, the vast majority of SAR stations and every Aids to Navigation Team are all commanded by enlisted. I’m currently an enlisted (E7) OIC of a station on the Great Lakes, with a crew of 23 and two standard boats. Some larger stations have Warrants, and a few of the largest stations are commanded by LTs. The Warrants and Officers who command SAR stations will normally qualify as coxswains, and this is really the only time you’ll see an officer serving as a coxswain.

BTW, I’m also a certified P-250 and Peri Jet pilot.

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HA! That’s hee-larious! I could just see it now. The Lt runs to the commander and goes “Sir, he didn’t salute me!” and the commander punches the snot-nosed kid in the face. “if a Court Martial is called.”…hehe, you want some help carrying that mighty big If?

Shag, you haven’t clearly stated why you think officers are “more qualified” than NCOs. You seem to think that their training is somehow more rigorous or something.

Count this post as a vote for “So they have control of their craft,” and definitely not “Because they’re elite.”

Military pilots do a bit more than just fly the aircraft. They also have a collateral duty (as it’s called in the Navy). This may be as Squadron Operations Officer, Squadron Administrative Officer, Squadron Maintenance Officer, and a few other tasks subordinate that level. The pilots are also involved in mission planning. It’s not just “hop in the jet and fly.”

By the way, Snnipe 70E; did you graduate from the US Maritime Academy or one of the state academies? In either case, could you describe your experience as a Midshipman there (preferably in MPSIMS)? Thanks!

California Maritime Academy. It would take a lot to describe life there. The state maritime academys have their own ships. The midshipmen run the ship with only one licensed officer on a watch. They are about the only colleges with a lot of hands on experience. When I went there it was a three year nine trimester program.

Kings point is a four year program. Unless it has changed first two years at the academy third year as an intern on a ship, fourth year back at the academy. Mor text book and less hands on.

Lets not hi jack this thread.

Thanks for the info. That’s whay I said “preferably in MPSIMS.”

OK so I am a little slow.

From listening to a few real-life anecdotes from my elders, plus fictional accounts, it seems most officers come to reply heavily on their senior noncoms. Only one has to call the other sir, but respect goes both ways. The sergeant has to salute the captain, but the captain is also expected to salute him back.