# Why are people still so goddamn stupid? Obama sure loves him some lobster, kuh'yuk! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574 "2009-08-25T00:00:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/21 "2009-08-25T03:18:55Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > Well, yeah, if there weren’t such a thing as Iranian caviar, that thing would be completely ridiculous. It’s obvious, though, that they specified that the imaginary caviar was Iranian, because in America Iran = where the antichrist lives. > > During the time that thing came about (the election), Iran was de rigeur for bashing. “Sit down with Iranian leaders without preconditions,” etcetcetc. I thought you were mocking the idea of Iranian caviar, but you were mocking the Iran = evil mentality. My apologies. I have a friend who escaped persecution from Iran in the 1980ies. He’s always talking about the good sides of Iranian culture, caviar being one thing he mentioned. Just don’t ask about the government. Anyways. These Obamabashing emails on Snopes are just ridiculous. [This](http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp) one about Michelle Obama’s staff size is just stupid. > [@](#): > > Staff Injection > Claim: First Lady Michelle Obama has an unprecedented number of staffers working for her. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/22 "2009-08-25T03:50:54Z")
I don’t normally post in the Pit, but I thought I ought to weigh in here, since I was actually at the rally mentioned in the e-mail. First of all, it wasn’t a completely inaccessible location. The airport is about 20 minutes by car outside of Bozeman. There were cars all over the place, and even without a car, I was able to make it there by public transportation and foot (though I seemed to have been the only one to go out on the public bus). Second, while Montana beef is certainly excellent (better than I’ve had anywhere else in the country), Obama wasn’t here long enough to have any sort of banquet, surf or turf. He might have had a chance to grab a quick sandwich backstage before he came out to the meeting, but I’m guessing that he just ate on the helicopter before or after. Third, a fellow from the Tea Party group did claim to have a permit for the area the Obama supporters were in, but didn’t have any evidence for it at the time. I haven’t yet found out whether they actually did or not. Fourth, the only person who seemed to be spoiling for a fight was the driver of a large truck bearing Tea Party banners, who drove towards the supporters a few times (but stopped short of running anyone over). Other than that, the pro and anti groups mingled pretty much peacefully. The pro-Obama organizers with megaphones were periodically reminding folks that we didn’t want violence, and people seemed to listen. Fifth, there was one busload of Obama supporters who came in, I don’t know from where, but the folks on that bus couldn’t have been more than a tenth of the people who were out there in support of Obama. Most of the people I talked to were from Bozeman. Many of the signs were professionally made, but were distributed by the organizers to whomever would hold one: The origin of the signs says nothing about the origin of the people carrying them. There were also a fair number of homemade signs. Sixth, yes, many of the pro-Obama demonstrators were under 30, but that should hardly be surprising, considering that Bozeman is a college town. Seventh, I didn’t see anyone wearing a shirt or carrying a sign that had anything to do with abortion or Planned Parenthood. Maybe they were there, but I sure didn’t see them. Eighth, of course it was organized by the White House. I knew about the event because of an e-mail I received from [BarackObama.com](http://BarackObama.com). The fact that a President is able to motivate the people and get things done is suddenly somehow reminiscent of the USSR? ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/23 "2009-08-25T04:53:32Z")
Just so I’m clear that I’m doing this right, I’m supposed to subvocalize USP1 and USP2 in the voice of Cletus from “The Simpsons”, correct? ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/24 "2009-08-25T04:54:32Z")
I love the Planned Parenthood thing. Because in a world where Obama would naturally fly in thousands of dollars in lobster, the abortionists would naturally bus in to support him. I’m sure GLAD was there, too, just for the hell of it. ---
**Author:** ![Jerseyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@Jerseyman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerseyman)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/25 "2009-08-25T05:10:15Z")
Have some sympathy! How would you feel when Political Correctness forbids you to say what you really believe, _no mixed race shall rule white Europeans_ and you really believe that unless 100% white or heterosexual then 100% black or homosexual. They’ve worked through every excuse including that in one part of the US Constitution, ‘Citizen’ has a capital and in another it does not, providing his fake Kenyan birth certificate, and as far as denying that Hawai’i is a US state. When hey switch from one to another as they are found false, it shows they are only looking for an excuse to get rid of the _black man_ with experience outside of their 16th century conclave. For us in the 21st century, it is good news to know that the US 17th century religiou maniacs are now the opposition instead of their government. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/26 "2009-08-25T05:26:29Z")
How DARE you waste electricity like this! Need I remind you that we are in a RECESSION! Think of all the $$$$$$! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/27 "2009-08-25T05:44:53Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > He is, in my opinion, our best president since Herbert Hoover. :dubious: This is sarcasm, right? ---
**Author:** ![MerryMagdalen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@MerryMagdalen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MerryMagdalen)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/28 "2009-08-25T06:50:55Z")
Thank you, **wierdaaron** , for the funny. I started laughing at “so he doesn’t have to learn how to use new chairs” and pretty much continued on from there. I would ship you the internet you have won, but now I don’t trust UPS. Also, **Fictional Windbag** is my next username. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/29 "2009-08-25T07:06:05Z")
Lobster aside, US Presidential visits to foreign countries _are_ accompanied by THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS of stuff. when Clinton visited Ireland in 1996, cargo planes turned up at Dublin airport in droves a few days before and unloaded an entire cavalcade. I witnessed it, and it was at least half a mile long of American vehicles. When Bush arrived in the west of Ireland I believe there was even more stuff unloaded, because he required a 10km exclusion zone. Not sure if domestic visits are the same, but there could be a grain of truth in the “cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly” statement. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/30 "2009-08-25T07:13:21Z")
> [@Jerseyman](#): > > Have some sympathy! How would you feel when Political Correctness forbids you to say what you really believe, _no mixed race shall rule white Europeans_ and you really believe that unless 100% white or heterosexual then 100% black or homosexual. They’ve worked through every excuse including that in one part of the US Constitution, ‘Citizen’ has a capital and in another it does not, providing his fake Kenyan birth certificate, and as far as denying that Hawai’i is a US state. When hey switch from one to another as they are found false, it shows they are only looking for an excuse to get rid of the _black man_ with experience outside of their 16th century conclave. > > For us in the 21st century, it is good news to know that the US 17th century religiou maniacs are now the opposition instead of their government. Why do people insist upon ascribing racist motives to EVERYTHING that they disagree with? It’s unbelievably tired. Believe it or not it’s possible for people to be critical of a non-white person without being an evil racist. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/31 "2009-08-25T07:57:14Z")
This is a totally sweet thread, but I’m cracking up here, laughing at many of you. Yes the Pubbies are an evil lot, and worthy of much derision, mostly for their bullying and name calling, honestly. Their talking points remind me of Rock Ridge, well, the replica, at least; nothing behind it to back it up. On this particular issue, they can only be taken to task for continuing to perpetrate a lie that was started, according to the second Snopes link in the OP, by a group named PUMA Pac. Who is PUMA Pac? [Feminazis!!](http://pumapac.org/blog-goals/who-we-are/) ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/32 "2009-08-25T13:11:15Z")
> [@](#): > > Join Date: Aug 2009 Welcome to the boards, weirdaaron. That was one hell of an OP. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/33 "2009-08-25T13:37:27Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > :dubious: This is sarcasm, right? In all fairness, Herbert Hoover was a pretty awesome guy, and there wasn’t a great deal he could have done about the Great Depression that he didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/34 "2009-08-25T13:49:44Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Eighth, of course it was organized by the White House. I knew about the event because of an e-mail I received from [BarackObama.com](http://BarackObama.com). The fact that a President is able to motivate the people and get things done is suddenly somehow reminiscent of the USSR? In America, President mails YOU ! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/35 "2009-08-25T13:55:40Z")
What is it with douchbags and lobsters these days? OMG someone ate a lobster!!!1111eleventyone Evil evil evil! ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/36 "2009-08-25T14:42:11Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > In all fairness, Herbert Hoover was a pretty awesome guy, and there wasn’t a great deal he could have done about the Great Depression that he didn’t. Agreed. The market crash was to early to have been caused by his policies. Like Obama, the “let business do its own thing” of Hoovers predecessor, Calvin Coolidge, sealed the fate of the nation. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/37 "2009-08-25T14:58:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > In all fairness, Herbert Hoover was a pretty awesome guy, and there wasn’t a great deal he could have done about the Great Depression that he didn’t. Well, there was that whole really bad idea about giving money to corporations so they could produce more goods. Top-down economic stimulus doesn’t work. Hoover was a multi-millionaire who stated that “anyone who is not a millionaire by 40 isn’t trying”, and who claimed in 1930 that the worst was over. The guy was hopeless, helpless and clueless. Let’s not rewrite history, okay? ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/38 "2009-08-25T15:07:12Z")
> [@emcee2k](#): > > Just so I’m clear that I’m doing this right, I’m supposed to subvocalize USP1 and USP2 in the voice of Cletus from “The Simpsons”, correct? I was hearing them as the two baggage handlers from _Trading Places_. You know, Tom Davis and that other what’s-his-name who went on to become a Senator in Minnesota. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/39 "2009-08-25T15:09:54Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Well, there was that whole really bad idea about giving money to corporations so they could produce more goods. Top-down economic stimulus doesn’t work. Hoover was a multi-millionaire who stated that “anyone who is not a millionaire by 40 isn’t trying”, and who claimed in 1930 that the worst was over. The guy was hopeless, helpless and clueless. Let’s not rewrite history, okay? Yes, but at least he was _trying_. This was before Keynes, so he didn’t have the option of federal stimulus unsupported by tax increases, and I don’t really have a problem with him suggesting the worst was over. After all, economic recovery is based on consumer confidence more than anything. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/40 "2009-08-25T15:51:41Z")
I work for a not for profit and no one would ever believe the amount of time/effort/work goes into a mere walk-a-thon for 300 people. We literally fill up a cargo van from Enterprise and we plan these frickin’ things for five months. And we don’t have to worry too much about security - the money is taken away in an armored van. People just don’t understand how HUGE event planning is. And how much shit you need for it. (And how much shit you take for it). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574.md?page=3)