# Why are people still so goddamn stupid? Obama sure loves him some lobster, kuh'yuk! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574 "2009-08-25T00:00:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/41 "2009-08-25T16:40:14Z")
Here’s what I want to know: what has Obama got against lobster? How can he insult the good people of Maine by not eating it daily? Are you too good for shellfish, Mr. President? Don’t you want to support America’s fishermen? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/42 "2009-08-25T16:43:27Z")
Hoover didn’t _cause_ the Depression – I didn’t say that. However, to say he was one of the best presidents of the 20th century (as **Lib** seems to be doing), is bullshit. [Ahhh – the plot thickens!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover#Policies): > [@](#): > > Hoover’s humanitarian and Quaker reputation, along with a vice-president of partial Native American descent, gave special meaning to his Indian policies. His Quaker upbringing influenced his views that Native Americans needed to achieve economic self-sufficiency. As President, he appointed Charles J. Rhoads as commissioner of Indian affairs. Hoover supported Rhoads’ commitment to Indian assimilation and sought to minimize the federal role in Indian affairs. His goal was to have Indians acting as individuals (not as tribes) and to assume the responsibilities of citizenship granted with the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.[23] While this is obviously a good thing, we all know **Lib** ’s obsession with anything about Indians – to the exclusion of anything else. The idea that there were no greater presidents until Obama – ignores men like FDR, or JFK. What about Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower, who started the move towards integregation? And while his legacy may be forever tainted by Vietnam, LBJ can be commended with HIS efforts in the Civil Rights Movement, as well as the Great Society. Clinton was no slouch either. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/43 "2009-08-25T16:46:07Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > What is it with douchbags and lobsters these days? > > OMG someone ate a lobster!!!1111eleventyone Evil evil evil! Say that to all the baby lobsters going “where’s mama?” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/44 "2009-08-25T16:54:10Z")
Hoover did also forcibly repatriate half a million Mexicans, most of whom were in the US legally. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/45 "2009-08-25T17:13:25Z")
I dunno – if I wanted to say “thank you” to a bunch of Montanans who had been busting their humps for a couple of days setting up a Town Hall meeting and I had a choice between steak (which they can get every day) or lobster (which are pretty rare in Montana, I’d guess) I could see catering in some lobster. I’m not saying that’s what happened, but it certainly wouldn’t even nudge my outrage meter. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/46 "2009-08-25T17:27:01Z")
Let’s remember that the Lovenstein Institute hoax has fooled more than a few members of the board, and that the Sarah Palin Africa hoax was widely discussed here before that matter was debunked. I’m not stating that as any kind of equivalence - I don’t know how that would stack up. But liberals congratulating themselves on their moral superiority here might want to rein it in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/47 "2009-08-25T17:38:48Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > lobster (which are pretty rare in Montana, I’d guess) If you haven’t tried Montana mountain lobster (Homarus Montanus), then you really haven’t lived. Served on a bed of lime jello and topped with a little Fluffernutter is the traditional way of serving it. Mmm mmm! ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/48 "2009-08-25T18:26:04Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > In all fairness, Herbert Hoover was a pretty awesome guy, and there wasn’t a great deal he could have done about the Great Depression that he didn’t. He was also (according to some reports) a wizard, and that’s pretty awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/49 "2009-08-25T18:29:24Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Let’s remember that the Lovenstein Institute hoax has fooled more than a few members of the board, and that the Sarah Palin Africa hoax was widely discussed here before that matter was debunked. > > I’m not stating that as any kind of equivalence - I don’t know how that would stack up. But liberals congratulating themselves on their moral superiority here might want to rein it in a bit. Since I never heard of either of these I’d have to assume they were nearly as widespread on this board as the phrase “Bushitler”. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/50 "2009-08-25T18:30:09Z")
Instead of focusing on what he ate, the email should have cited what the trip to Montana cost the taxpayers to answer (8) EIGHT questions… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/51 "2009-08-25T18:52:56Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > While this is obviously a good thing, we all know **Lib** ’s obsession with anything about Indians – to the exclusion of anything else. Guin Guin Guin. Now, you know that’s not true. I’ve been posting about everything from board rules to Jesus to philosophy to Big Brother to a poll about religion to Obama and all manner of topics. Your “to the exclusion of anything else” is so ridiculously, obviously, and patently false that you’re going to leave people wondering about your general truthiness. Now, just apologize and back away gracefully. (Also, if I may add a word of advice: stop obsessing over me. It isn’t necessary that every comment I make be monitored and blown up by you into this whole big thing. Please. And thank you.) ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/52 "2009-08-25T18:53:13Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > He was also (according to some reports) a wizard, and that’s pretty awesome. Reports by who? Baby Cakes? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/53 "2009-08-25T18:56:04Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Let’s remember that the Lovenstein Institute hoax has fooled more than a few members of the board, and that the Sarah Palin Africa hoax was widely discussed here before that matter was debunked. What are the Lovenstein Institute and Sarah Palin Africa hoaxes? > [@Liberal](#): > > Guin Guin Guin. Now, you know that’s not true. I’ve been posting about everything from board rules to Jesus to philosophy to Big Brother to a poll about religion to Obama and all manner of topics. Your “to the exclusion of anything else” is so ridiculously, obviously, and patently false that you’re going to leave people wondering about your general truthiness. Now, just apologize and back away gracefully. Dude, you do seem to judge all Presidents on how they did by the Indians. It kind of makes me wonder what exactly Obama has done for your people. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/54 "2009-08-25T19:03:12Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What are the Lovenstein Institute and Sarah Palin Africa hoaxes? Seconded. “Widely discussed here”, you say, **MM**? :dubious: > [@](#): > > Dude, you do seem to judge all Presidents on how they did by the Indians. It kind of makes me wonder what exactly Obama has done for your people. :dubious: A group he \*claims \*to be his people, but who do not recognize him in return. Why it matters to him so passionately is his own problem. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/55 "2009-08-25T19:12:18Z")
I seem to remember some McCain staffers claiming that Palin thought Africa was a country. I don’t remember it being debunked, though. I have no idea what the “Lovenstein Institute” is. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/56 "2009-08-25T19:13:29Z")
[Lovenstein Institute.](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.asp) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/57 "2009-08-25T19:21:11Z")
FWIW, I just did a search on “Lovenstein Institute”. The number of mentions on this entire board before today? Zero. **Mr. Moto** , wtf? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/58 "2009-08-25T19:29:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I seem to remember some McCain staffers claiming that Palin thought Africa was a country. I don’t remember it being debunked, though. [It was.](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin) The link says Fox stood by its story anyhow. Not searching this one; let **Mr. Moto** provide some. Since it was “widely discussed”, that shouldn’t be a problem, right? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/59 "2009-08-25T19:39:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [It was.](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin) The link says Fox stood by its story anyhow. That’s not really a debunking. It’s just a guy falsely claiming to have been the source. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/60 "2009-08-25T19:48:45Z")
Interesting that Fox News are the only ones who still say it’s true. Maybe Jon Stewart was right… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574.md?page=4)