# Why are people still so goddamn stupid? Obama sure loves him some lobster, kuh'yuk! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574 "2009-08-25T00:00:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/61 "2009-08-25T20:37:02Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Guin Guin Guin. Now, you know that’s not true. I’ve been posting about everything from board rules to Jesus to philosophy to Big Brother to a poll about religion to Obama and all manner of topics. Your “to the exclusion of anything else” is so ridiculously, obviously, and patently false that you’re going to leave people wondering about your general truthiness. Now, just apologize and back away gracefully. > > (Also, if I may add a word of advice: stop obsessing over me. It isn’t necessary that every comment I make be monitored and blown up by you into this whole big thing. Please. And thank you.) You misunderstand me – when you focus on an individual – like say, Hoover – I assume you only look at his policy on Native Americans. At least, I assume that’s why you consider him a great president. Or at least part of it. Because otherwise, I have no idea. Perhaps you can clarify that? As for obsessing over you – don’t flatter yourself. Topic? These “Montana mountain lobster” are they similiar to “prairie oysters?” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/62 "2009-08-25T20:39:50Z")
It was a raging scandal that swept like wildfire across the nation, despite being ruthlessly suppressed by the liberal media so nobody ever heard about it! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/63 "2009-08-25T20:43:45Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Topic? These “Montana mountain lobster” are they similiar to “prairie oysters?” No! Not even close! Duh! Prairie oysters are spherical. Montana mountain lobsters are more of a cube shape. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/64 "2009-08-25T20:47:34Z")
Learn how to block your father’s email address. It will be worth it. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/65 "2009-08-25T21:08:41Z")
> [@WarmNPrickly](#): > > Like Obama, the “let business do its own thing” of Hoovers predecessor, Calvin Coolidge, sealed the fate of the nation. Obama sealed the fate of the nation? ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/66 "2009-08-25T21:22:48Z")
I made it to: > [@wierdaaron](#): > > Michelle Obama loves lobster SOO much that she won’t even eat lobster without a lobster hors d’oeuvres! SO MUCH LOBSTER!!. until I actually pissed myself. > [@Munch](#): > > Welcome to the boards, weirdaaron. That was one hell of an OP. Indeed! I’ve been around since the AOL days and am still trying to come up with something coherent. And don’t forget the Obama children are Spongebob Squarepants fans; he works for… **MISTER CRABS!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Robin\_Goodfellow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Robin\_Goodfellow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robin_Goodfellow)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/67 "2009-08-25T22:10:29Z")
Much as I hate to chime in as #9000 in the **wierdaaron** blowjob train, I love the variation and style in his OPs. I hope he continues to post these counter-glurges for as long as the board tolerates them and as long as they’re fun to write. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/68 "2009-08-25T22:13:30Z")
> [@Robin\_Goodfellow](#): > > Much as I hate to chime in as #9000 in the **wierdaaron** blowjob train… Good God, he has to blow all of you? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/69 "2009-08-25T22:23:57Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Second, while Montana beef is certainly excellent (better than I’ve had anywhere else in the country), Obama wasn’t here long enough to have any sort of banquet, surf or turf. He might have had a chance to grab a quick sandwich backstage before he came out to the meeting, but I’m guessing that he just ate on the helicopter before or after. If you had it in Montana, it’s quite likely that it came from somewhere else. Most Montana beef is exported out of the state; it’s nearly impossible to find a restaurant that serves it. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/70 "2009-08-25T22:24:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Good God, he has to blow all of you? No, don’t be silly. It’s strictly voluntary. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/71 "2009-08-25T22:51:15Z")
Well, good. Video on YouTube, or Facebook? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/72 "2009-08-25T23:11:14Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Why do people insist upon ascribing racist motives to EVERYTHING that they disagree with? It’s unbelievably tired. Believe it or not it’s possible for people to be critical of a non-white person without being an evil racist. Tip: nobody is saying that EVERYONE against Obama is racist. However, the extremists, at least the majority, are undoubtedly motivated in part by racism. Nobody ever claimed Clinton or Bush was born in, say, France. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/73 "2009-08-26T02:53:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Dude, you do seem to judge all Presidents on how they did by the Indians. It kind of makes me wonder what exactly Obama has done for your people. Esse quam videri, sir. I judge presidents by what they have done for all Americans. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > You misunderstand me – when you focus on an individual – like say, Hoover – I assume you only look at his policy on Native Americans. At least, I assume that’s why you consider him a great president. Or at least part of it. Because otherwise, I have no idea. Perhaps you can clarify that? Why don’t you read and learn? Why is it my job to teach you what Hoover did as president? If you weren’t so snarky and making assumptions, I might be more thorough in answering you. The economic crash was no more his fault than 9-11 was Bush’s fault — both happening at roughly the same time in their presidencies. Hoover was defeated, not so much because of his economic recovery plans (which were progressive for his time), but because of his lack of charisma (presidents were now filmed — you can even watch YouTube videos), popular opposition to prohibition, and his inability to work with other policitians. Hoover was the last president elected directly from the cabinet, and he was more used to dealing with people openly, rather than using the machinations of politics to achieve his goals. His [humanitarian work](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover#Humanitarian) is legendary. In his first 120 days in office, he held more press conferences than any president before or since. It is true that his vice-president was part Indian, but big whoop. He did make sweeping changes in BIA, and many other government agencies. The notion that Hoover wanted government to do nothing about the depression is a lie. As he said in his memoirs, he opposed his own Treasury Secretary Melon’s policies of government giving no assistance. Hoover was defeated by the Great Depression in the same way that Johnson was defeated by the Vietnam War. Subordinates, incompetent in their decision making, were his ruination. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/74 "2009-08-26T03:19:59Z")
Plus, I hear Herbert Hoover stayed at the Plaza Hotel once, on a floor with extra large rooms, TVs, and those little refrigerators you have to open with a key. Credit caaard? Yoooou gooot it. ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/75 "2009-08-26T03:29:06Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > Plus, I hear Herbert Hoover stayed at the Plaza Hotel once, on a floor with extra large rooms, TVs, and those little refrigerators you have to open with a key. > > Credit caaard? Yoooou gooot it. The vacuum cleaner guy? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/76 "2009-08-26T03:31:40Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > Plus, I hear Herbert Hoover stayed at the Plaza Hotel once, on a floor with extra large rooms, TVs, and those little refrigerators you have to open with a key. > > Credit caaard? Yoooou gooot it. No – but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once. **Lib** : once again, I didn’t say he created the Depression, or that he was at fault for it. I said, he wasn’t such a great president – or at the very LEAST, there have been better presidents since. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/77 "2009-08-26T04:32:27Z")
Quoth **Chefguy** : > [@](#): > > If you had it in Montana, it’s quite likely that it came from somewhere else. Most Montana beef is exported out of the state; it’s nearly impossible to find a restaurant that serves it. That may be true; I’ve never asked my steak where it’s from (though I can’t imagine why anyone would ship beef into Montana). All I know is, all of the beef I’ve had here has been across the board better than beef I’ve had back East. Maybe it’s just that folks around here really know how to do beef up right, or something. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/78 "2009-08-26T04:53:45Z")
I’ve eaten quite a few steaks in my life, and I don’t remember place of origin ever being mentioned. And I’ve eaten in some nice places. Usually it’s just Angus this or USDA Prime that. Except Kobe beef from Japan, of course, but I’ve never been in a restaurant of sufficient douchebaggery to serve that. How is Montana beef supposed to be better, anyway? It’s not like with seafood where certain types of crab and lobster and fish are native to a specific locale (Maine lobster is quite different from Florida lobster; just ask Obama), but cows are cows. You could take a Montana cow and raise it in Cincinnati. Unless Montana has special grass, or special… what do cows drink? Milk? Gross, don’t they know that comes _from_ cows?! ETA: I just remembered eating bison while in Colorado, and a large deal being made about it being Colorado bison. But where the hell else is bison going to come from? Colorado’s the only place they eat it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/79 "2009-08-26T05:09:54Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > ETA: I just remembered eating bison while in Colorado, and a large deal being made about it being Colorado bison. But where the hell else is bison going to come from? Colorado’s the only place they eat it. Not so. You can get a nice bison burger in any of Ted Turner’s ‘Ted’s Montana Grill’ restaurants, which are [all over the east coast and the lower Midwest](http://www.tedsmontanagrill.com/locator.html). ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/80 "2009-08-26T05:40:35Z")
I’m pretty sure I’ve made it clear already that I don’t like to have my opinionated assertions contradicted by verifiable facts. Try to accommodate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574.md?page=5)