# Why are people still so goddamn stupid? Obama sure loves him some lobster, kuh'yuk! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574 "2009-08-25T00:00:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/81 "2009-08-26T05:44:19Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Guin Guin Guin. Now, you know that’s not true. I’ve been posting about everything from board rules to Jesus to philosophy to Big Brother to a poll about religion to Obama and all manner of topics. \*Dats the truth. _Lib posts on everything all the time_. Sometimes I wish he just shut the hell up, then I read a few gems of his and say “Ah yes, that’s the Lib I know and love to read”. He’s been on a roll recently, much better reading that some time ago. - mea culpa ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/82 "2009-08-26T07:31:32Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > I’ve eaten quite a few steaks in my life, and I don’t remember place of origin ever being mentioned. And I’ve eaten in some nice places. Usually it’s just Angus this or USDA Prime that. > > Except Kobe beef from Japan, of course, but I’ve never been in a restaurant of sufficient douchebaggery to serve that. > > How is Montana beef supposed to be better, anyway? It’s not like with seafood where certain types of crab and lobster and fish are native to a specific locale (Maine lobster is quite different from Florida lobster; just ask Obama), but cows are cows. You could take a Montana cow and raise it in Cincinnati. Unless Montana has special grass, or special… what do cows drink? Milk? Gross, don’t they know that comes _from_ cows?! > > ETA: I just remembered eating bison while in Colorado, and a large deal being made about it being Colorado bison. But where the hell else is bison going to come from? Colorado’s the only place they eat it. Funny you should say this, because I ate at a fancy steak restaurant last night and they beef was listed by where it was from and how old, information which really didn’t mean anything to me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/83 "2009-08-26T15:08:30Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > I’m pretty sure I’ve made it clear already that I don’t like to have my opinionated assertions contradicted by verifiable facts. Try to accommodate. I know, I know, but bison tastes pretty damn good. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/84 "2009-08-26T15:17:30Z")
Do the buffalo wings re-grow after harvesting? And how is it that they look and taste so much like chicken soaked in vomit? (Aside to **Lib** : Our favorite Jewboy would admonish us to be generous and forgiving. It simpy isn’t possible for every American to have the advantage of some Cherokee blood, indeed, it is unfairly apportioned to Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Perhaps it is a divine plan to prevent the utter degradation of hillbilly/peckerwood bloodlines, it is beyond our ken to know. It behooves us not to be too smug about it, as it stirs envy.) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/85 "2009-08-26T15:47:02Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > Tip: nobody is saying that EVERYONE against Obama is racist. However, the extremists, at least the majority, are undoubtedly motivated in part by racism. Nobody ever claimed Clinton or Bush was born in, say, France. No,but they claimed Clinton was a murderer. Very little of this is racism, they hated the Clintons with the same white hot heat. And this proves me right- many said that Hillary was hated o bad she couldn’t get elected, and that the far Right wouldn’t hate any other candidate as much. Ha! ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/86 "2009-08-26T16:50:08Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > And this proves me right- many said that Hillary was hated o bad she couldn’t get elected, and that the far Right wouldn’t hate any other candidate as much. Ha! Funny, I said something about this to my wife last night. Except that I hold a differing view – I think that the crap we’re seeing right now would be much, _much_ worse if Hillary was president. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/87 "2009-08-26T23:34:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Quoth **Chefguy** :That may be true; I’ve never asked my steak where it’s from (though I can’t imagine why anyone would ship beef into Montana). All I know is, all of the beef I’ve had here has been across the board better than beef I’ve had back East. Maybe it’s just that folks around here really know how to do beef up right, or something. I tried to find a good steakhouse in Billings, even asking on these very boards for recommendations. No luck. Reviews on line were lukewarm at best. Recommendations from people living in Billings ranged from “dunno” to “I like Outback”. The waiter at the restaurant we went to told me about the beef being sent out of state. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/88 "2009-08-27T00:56:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Lib** : once again, I didn’t say he created the Depression, or that he was at fault for it. I said, he wasn’t such a great president – or at the very LEAST, there have been better presidents since. But why is it that you cannot (or will not) concede that that is a matter of opinion? We, as Americans, judge our presidents in the ways we see fit. Just because you might think Roosevelt was a greater president than Hoover, or Reagn, or Carter, or whatever — that doesn’t mean that someone else is not entitled to some other opinion. And especially when they’ve bothered to research the ridiculous caricature history has drawn in its bumper sticker assessments of Hoover. I like Hoover, and I love Obama. It’s my right. Leave me be with it. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/89 "2009-08-27T01:11:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > (Aside to **Lib** : Our favorite Jewboy would admonish us to be generous and forgiving. It simpy isn’t possible for every American to have the advantage of some Cherokee blood, indeed, it is unfairly apportioned to Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Perhaps it is a divine plan to prevent the utter degradation of hillbilly/peckerwood bloodlines, it is beyond our ken to know. It behooves us not to be too smug about it, as it stirs envy.) I don’t know from where you cull your information, friend Luc, but there is plenty of Cherokee blood in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia — especially in the mountains. We are descended from people who hid themselves, and had the sense to take the warnings from Jackson’s lap dog, Martin Van Buren, seriously. Our people did not sign the rolls, and so we are not even allowed to claim our heritage. In fact, currently, the Eastern Band of Cherokee is accepting NO ONE who is not born to Cherokee parents. In other words, the system is now closed. If your family was not on the Dawes Roll (a census taken of Cherokee Indians who got land under the provisions of the Dawes Act from 1898 to 1914), then you already could not join the tribe. But worse, the tribe is “auditing” the Dawes Roll, and has already removed names, effectively tossing out people who had been members of the tribe for generations. Even with 7/8 blood, you cannot join the tribe without that arbitrary qualification. There needs to be a switch to DNA testing for membership, but the tribal council has rejected the notion. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574/90 "2009-08-27T01:41:32Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > I’ve eaten quite a few steaks in my life, and I don’t remember place of origin ever being mentioned. And I’ve eaten in some nice places. Usually it’s just Angus this or USDA Prime that. > > Except Kobe beef from Japan, of course, but I’ve never been in a restaurant of sufficient douchebaggery to serve that. > > How is Montana beef supposed to be better, anyway? It’s not like with seafood where certain types of crab and lobster and fish are native to a specific locale (Maine lobster is quite different from Florida lobster; just ask Obama), but cows are cows. You could take a Montana cow and raise it in Cincinnati. Unless Montana has special grass, or special… what do cows drink? Milk? Gross, don’t they know that comes _from_ cows?! > > ETA: I just remembered eating bison while in Colorado, and a large deal being made about it being Colorado bison. But where the hell else is bison going to come from? Colorado’s the only place they eat it. There is a huge difference between cattle raised on grass vs corn. Some like one, some prefer the other. I assume Montanna beef is from grass fed cattle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-people-still-so-goddamn-stupid-obama-sure-loves-him-some-lobster-kuhyuk/507574.md?page=4)