# Why are Pratchett's "Science of Discworld" books so hard to find in the U.S.?

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**Created:** [November 13, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773 "2013-11-13T01:42:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/1 "2013-11-13T01:42:05Z")

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[_The Science of Discworld_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_of_discworld)

[_The Science of Discworld II: The Globe_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Discworld_II:_The_Globe)

[_The Science of Discworld III: Darwin’s Watch_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Discworld_III:_Darwin%27s_Watch)

[_The Science of Discworld IV: Judgement Day_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Discworld_IV:_Judgement_Day)

They’re not really novels – each has a Pratchett-written plot involving the wizards of UU, but it’s just a framing-device for scientific exposition. By far most of the text was written by Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen.

Barnes & Noble does not carry them and apparently never has. I’ve read SODWII and SODWIII but I had to get them by interlibrary loan and it took months; still waiting for SODWI and I requested it more than six months ago; can’t get SODWIV on ILL because the Tampa-Hillsborough library system won’t do ILL on any book less than a year old. SODWI is not even on **Amazon** any more except in Kindle format, and when the book was available there it priced at a hundred dollars or more for a mass-market paperback.

Why have these books not been published/marketed in the U.S.?!

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/2 "2013-11-13T01:45:44Z")

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I’ve been wondering that as well. I managed to find the second and third (I think I found them at a used bookstore), but I’ve had no luck with the first or the new one.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/3 "2013-11-13T02:58:21Z")

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Maybe if you sent the Librarian a banana…

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/4 "2013-11-13T03:19:48Z")

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It looks like it was published by an English publisher. Pratchett is a major author in the UK (before J.K. Rowling came along, he was the UK’s most popular author) while in the US he is just another niche author – solid, but not known outside the fantasy ghetto.

It’s likely his US publisher (HarperTorch at the time the Science of Discworld books came out) didn’t see enough of a market for it.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/5 "2013-11-13T10:28:34Z")

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Not sure if market research would show that books about abiogenesis and evolution would not go down so well Ststeside - and large parts of the books are about just that. But I gather that authors like Dawkins and Hitchens aren’t hard to find at all, so it’s not likely to be that.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/6 "2013-11-13T18:28:36Z")

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And yet B&N has a whole big section of popular-science books.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/7 "2013-11-13T19:23:40Z")

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[Amazon.co.uk](http://Amazon.co.uk) - all of them are in stock. [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com)’s consignment section has paperbacks and trade paperbacks. There was one paperback of the first SoDW for $9.22.

They’re out there, but not really marketed in the US.

I didn’t check to see if my hardbacks would be worth $$, because I’m not parting with them.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/8 "2013-11-13T19:32:09Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> [Amazon.co.uk](http://Amazon.co.uk) - all of them are in stock. [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com)’s consignment section has paperbacks and trade paperbacks. There was one paperback of the first SoDW for $9.22.
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> They’re out there, but not really marketed in the US.
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> I didn’t check to see if my hardbacks would be worth $$, because I’m not parting with them.

Thanks. Will try that.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/9 "2013-11-13T19:45:44Z")

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a diligent search of the web will find them…

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-pratchetts-science-of-discworld-books-so-hard-to-find-in-the-u-s/673773/10 "2013-11-13T19:50:43Z")

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How well do his science books sell in the UK, as compared to his fiction?
