# Why are red-haired people called "ginger"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 7, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906 "2008-10-07T21:34:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Amber\_in\_Treasury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Amber\_in\_Treasury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amber_in_Treasury)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/1 "2008-10-07T21:34:16Z")

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Title says it all.🙂

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/2 "2008-10-07T21:44:22Z")

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Interesting question, so I’ll bump it.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/3 "2008-10-07T22:08:46Z")

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Have you ever seen the color of ginger root (cooked)? 😉

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**Author:** ![Amber\_in\_Treasury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Amber\_in\_Treasury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amber_in_Treasury)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/4 "2008-10-07T22:11:15Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Have you ever seen the color of ginger root (cooked)? 😉

Isn’t that more yellowish…?

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/5 "2008-10-07T22:18:00Z")

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> [@Amber\_in\_Treasury](#):
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> Title says it all.🙂

Because we can’t all be called “Amber” 🙂

Dried, powdered ginger does, IMO, have a reddish tinge; as does the root itself. Doesn’t matter so much what you or I perceive the color to be – the word definitely derives from somebody’s idea that the color of someone’s hair was “ginger-y”, and the name took, based in fact or not.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/6 "2008-10-07T22:24:40Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> Because we can’t all be called “Amber” 🙂
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> Dried, powdered ginger does, IMO, have a reddish tinge; as does the root itself. Doesn’t matter so much what you or I perceive the color to be – the word definitely derives from somebody’s idea that the color of someone’s hair was “ginger-y”, and the name took, based in fact or not.

The ginger root I’ve seen is medium brown, with a yellowish tint to the pulp. Powdered has a _little_ red in it. But red hair is usually orange, IMO.

I think it’s like goldfish, which are orange; or red onions, which are purple; or white wine which is light yellowish-green…:smack:

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/7 "2008-10-07T22:28:31Z")

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> [@me](#):
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> Doesn’t matter so much what you or I perceive the color to be – **the word definitely derives from somebody’s idea that the color of someone’s hair was “ginger-y”** , and the name took, based in fact or not.

> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> I think it’s like goldfish, which are orange; or red onions, which are purple; or white wine which is light yellowish-green…:smack:

I rest my case…

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/8 "2008-10-07T22:49:40Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> The ginger root I’ve seen is medium brown, with a yellowish tint to the pulp. Powdered has a _little_ red in it. But red hair is usually orange, IMO.
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> I think it’s like goldfish, which are orange; or red onions, which are purple; or white wine which is light yellowish-green…:smack:

Powdered ginger can be rather [orange](http://eatmoreherbs.com/herbjpgs/jpgs/B297_ginger_root_powder.jpg). And people who are called “ginger” don’t necessarily have bright red/orange hair; often it is a light orange-brown color, like powdered ginger.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/9 "2008-10-07T23:46:16Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Interesting question, so I’ll bump it.

Hijack: What is the point of bumping a thread a mere _ten minutes_ after it’s been opened? What does it accomplish?

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/10 "2008-10-08T01:58:43Z")

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I thought they were called “Blue”. 😃

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/11 "2008-10-08T15:43:59Z")

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> [@Apollyon](#):
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> I thought they were called “Blue”. 😃

They are (or were – it’s a bit old-fashioned) in Australia. I suspect that’s being ironic, by choosing the opposite colour in the spectrum from that of red hair.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/12 "2008-10-08T17:10:36Z")

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I never heard “ginger” used in that context until I saw it on South Park. And I’m one of 3 red-haired brothers.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/13 "2008-10-08T17:18:20Z")

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Orange cats are sometimes called “ginger”, something I hear in the UK quite a bit. Sadly, they taste neither like orange nor ginger. 😉

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/14 "2008-10-08T17:34:33Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> Orange cats are sometimes called “ginger”, something I hear in the UK quite a bit. Sadly, they taste neither like orange nor ginger. 😉

That’s because your not putting the right stuff in their feed.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/15 "2008-10-08T17:37:05Z")

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Because they don’t want to be called “The Professor” or “Mary Ann”

(Or – worse yet – “The Rest”)

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/16 "2008-10-08T20:01:10Z")

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More to the point… why is having red hair considered a bad thing in the UK? The term “Ginger” seems to be considered a slur. The use of the term in any context is rare in the US, and never as an insult.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/17 "2008-10-08T20:36:02Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> The use of the term in any context is rare in the US, and never as an insult.

Obviously you haven’t seen the above mentioned episode of South Park!

As an aside, I too had never heard the term until I saw that episode.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/18 "2008-10-08T20:40:46Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Hijack: What is the point of bumping a thread a mere _ten minutes_ after it’s been opened? What does it accomplish?

It’s the Doper way of complimenting the OP on a good question.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/19 "2008-10-08T20:50:33Z")

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I think Scarlett sneeringly refers to her second husband, Frank, as “ginger whiskers” in _Gone With the Wind_ (the book; don’t recall her saying it in the movie). I think that’s the only reference I’ve ever seen. It must be passing out of use?

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-red-haired-people-called-ginger/466906/20 "2008-10-08T21:27:55Z")

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The first time I noticed it was in the last Harry Potter book, “Ditch Ginger, and come have a drink with us…”

Why is this considered an insult, though? Sort of just refering to someone in the generic sense?

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