# Why Are Republicans Allowed To Vote? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 1, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570 "2015-09-01T02:37:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/201 "2015-09-07T04:59:24Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > Yeah, the claims that liberals and conservatives are equal is disingenuous to say the least. The left is _far_ more bigoted and hateful than the right. And despite the crying and sobbing of fake progressives, more and more people are believing this 🙂 What an interesting claim that I’m sure **bosbfdsfd** is going to come clarify and elucidate at some point between now and the heat death of the universe. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/202 "2015-09-07T05:54:51Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > . . . If the left was serious about civil rights, they’d be for multiple marriage right now, not waiting until public opinion turns in about 20 years… And if the right was serious about civil rights, they’d be for multiple marriage right now, not fighting like rabid weasels against public opinion for the next 30 years. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/203 "2015-09-07T06:16:57Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The left got to the right place on those positions a few years before the right did. I’m not sure that’s a profile in moral courage. An irrelevant and nonsensical comparison. Look [here](http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/) and scroll down to attitudes by political party. Twice as many democrats as republicans have supported gay marriage since 2001. That’s a HUGE difference. And we don’t really know that it’s “a few years before the right did”, because the right still doesn’t. > [@](#): > > If the left was serious about civil rights, they’d be for multiple marriage right now, not waiting until public opinion turns in about 20 years… Wow that’s a stupid remark and a terrible analogy. Here are two reasons why: (1) Extending straight marriage to gay marriage, legally, is trivially easy. Extending two-partner marriage to n-partner marriage is a legal nightmare (2) The percentage of the population who is gay is vastly higher than the percentage who is openly poly. Everyone has a proverbial gay uncle bob. Very few people have poly uncle bobs. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/204 "2015-09-07T06:37:42Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > And if the right was serious about civil rights, they’d be for multiple marriage right now, not fighting like rabid weasels against public opinion for the next 30 years. Public opinion is still pretty closely divided, thus those against gay marriage are represented in our democracy. Those against multiple marriage are represented by both parties, until enough people are in favor of it, at which time the Democrats will come out for it and then pat themselves on the back for their morality. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/205 "2015-09-07T07:01:48Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You have to realize that some conservatives have a special definition of bigoted and hateful. > > So if you suggest all religions deserve equal treatment, you’re being bigoted and hateful to Christians. If you suggest all genders and sexual orientations deserve equal treatment, you’re being bigoted and hateful to straight men. If you suggest all races deserve equal treatment, you’re being bigoted and hateful to white people. “If we keep repeating our lies about being for ‘equality,’ maybe they’ll stop calling us out on our bigotry and hatred. And if not, we can always call them racist!” ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/206 "2015-09-07T07:05:21Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > An irrelevant and nonsensical comparison. > > Look [here](http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/) and scroll down to attitudes by political party. Twice as many democrats as republicans have supported gay marriage since 2001. Golly, political non-coward Obama seems to be missing from that list until 2012. I wonder why that is? ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/207 "2015-09-07T12:33:10Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > Golly, political non-coward Obama seems to be missing from that list until 2012. I wonder why that is? It’s because all politicians follow opinion rather than lead it otherwise they’d never get elected. Once they’re safely in office and preferably not facing another election, then they can start leading. As for democracy even the Athenians who invented it were wise enough to restrict the franchise. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/208 "2015-09-07T18:13:26Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > So, I repeat, why are these people allowed to vote? Because we understand that Cruz is eligible for the Presidency. Also because we vote while we are still alive. We don’t start voting Democrat until after we die. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/209 "2015-09-07T18:17:05Z")
Well, sure, if you go to Heaven. Me, I vote for them now because my chances aren’t very good. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/210 "2015-09-07T18:46:05Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Extending two-partner marriage to n-partner marriage is a legal nightmare I disagree. [Ontario Family Law Act](http://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90f03#BK1) re. child, spouse and parent support, and property matters > [@](#): > > (2) In the definition of “spouse”, a reference to marriage includes a marriage that is actually or potentially polygamous, if it was celebrated in a jurisdiction whose system of law recognizes it as valid. R.S.O. 1990, c. F.3, s. 1 (2). [Ontario Children’s Law Reform Act](http://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90c12#BK1) re. parenting, e.g. custody and access > [@](#): > > 1. (1) Subject to subsection (2), for all purposes of the law of Ontario a person is the child of his or her natural parents and his or her status as their child is independent of whether the child is born within or outside marriage. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.12, s. 1 (1). [Ontario Children’s Law Reform Act](http://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90c12#BK24) re. parenting, e.g. custody and access > [@](#): > > 1. (1) A parent of a child or any other person may apply to a court for an order respecting custody of or access to the child or determining any aspect of the incidents of custody of the child. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.12, s. 21. [Ontario Succession Law Reform Act](http://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90s26?search=polygamous#BK0) re. inheritances with or without a will > [@](#): > > (2) In the definition of “spouse”, a reference to marriage includes a marriage that is actually or potentially polygamous, if it was celebrated in a jurisdiction whose system of law recognizes it as valid. R.S.O. 1990, c. S.26, s. 1 (2). BTW, up here we don’t conduct plural marriages and don’t let people immigrate here if they are in a plural marriage, but our laws have been amended to deal with plural marriages when end up here anyway. (I’d like plural marriages to be permitted.) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/211 "2015-09-07T18:50:24Z")
I would think the issues surrounding transgender people are much more complex than multiple marriage. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/212 "2015-09-07T19:05:35Z")
Republicans are allowed to vote because it keeps them occupied rather than masturbating in public. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/213 "2015-09-07T19:52:34Z")
Speaking of multiple marriage, I think it should be allowed **only** if it can be show that it is becoming common for the man or men in a group to be voted out by the women. So far what I see are many examples that use old time religion models were the women have very little to say if the men want to get another woman into the group. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/214 "2015-09-07T19:57:33Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Public opinion is still pretty closely divided, Yes, much in the way public opinion on interracial marriage was closely divided in the 90s. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/215 "2015-09-07T20:24:21Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Public opinion is still pretty closely divided, thus those against gay marriage are represented in our democracy. Those against multiple marriage are represented by both parties, until enough people are in favor of it, at which time the Democrats will come out for it and then pat themselves on the back for their morality. And, at the same time, the Republicans will continue to oppose it, fighting with insane fervor, even trying to claim that marriage licenses aren’t valid if only signed by deputy county recorders, etc. – long after the tipping point in public opinion. Which is worse? Not getting on the trolley at the first stop? Or trying to derail the trolley when it is now filled with passengers? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/216 "2015-09-07T20:27:39Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I would think the issues surrounding transgender people are much more complex than multiple marriage. That’s stupid. The issues regarding transgendered people are trivial in comparison. Just treat them as their current gender. Men and Women – and transmen and transwomen – are all identical under the laws of inheritance, property ownership, visitation rights in hospital and major medical decisions, etc. There is no change in the laws necessary to accommodate the property laws of the transgendered. For multiple partners in marriage, there’s a shit-ton of new laws needed. You’re too silly for words. Do you ever think before you post? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/217 "2015-09-07T20:28:52Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Republicans are allowed to vote because it keeps them occupied rather than masturbating in public. I’d very much prefer they engaged in the latter rather than the former. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/218 "2015-09-07T20:33:00Z")
Even if it were illegal, they could dispense with legal representation, as they can get themselves off. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/219 "2015-09-07T20:35:34Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > Yeah, the claims that liberals and conservatives are equal is disingenuous to say the least. The left is _far_ more bigoted and hateful than the right. And despite the crying and sobbing of fake progressives, more and more people are believing this 🙂 > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Cite? bosbfdsfd, I’ll assume your lack of response indicates: I got nuthin. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570/220 "2015-09-07T20:45:47Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > bosbfdsfd, I’ll assume your lack of response indicates: I got nuthin. Eh, he’s still got quite a bit of time before heat death. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-allowed-to-vote/729570.md?page=12)