# Why are Republicans generally more patriotic than Democrats?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-generally-more-patriotic-than-democrats/791627>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 19, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-generally-more-patriotic-than-democrats/791627 "2017-07-19T05:03:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-generally-more-patriotic-than-democrats/791627/241 "2017-07-21T22:51:28Z")

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> [@Kearsen](#):
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> You say discriminatory voter laws, the right doesn’t seem them as discriminatory, merely a way to validate the right to vote. (Protecting freedom)

Fortunately, the courts did and struck them down with the explicit statement that they were discriminatory. (TX, NC, PA)

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> You say abortion banning like its a bad thing. (Again, the right sees it as protecting an unborn life)

Also fortunately, a majority of the country disagrees with them. Yet even many of those on the right manage to rationalize abortion in rape cases or where the life of the mother is in jeopardy. And ensuring one’s own religious freedom is not an excuse for curtailing the freedoms of others.

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> Bathroom laws. Some might see that as protecting (in fact it has been framed that way, little Mary from predatory people …

Which has been shown to be a manufactured problem and as such needs no such solution. I suggest you read more about it.

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> I could refute almost every single point you could throw since they all depend on point of view.

Actually, they don’t. In the end, it’s been the courts that have spoken.

As for your point in another post, you say libertarian ideals align more strongly with those of Republicans; that appears to have been the popular mythology. But if I had to give some proportion as to my beliefs, I’d say something along the lines of one part conservative, two parts liberal, and three parts libertarian. Where would I fit in your theoretical political spectrum? I can guarantee you it isn’t conservative or Republican.

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**Author:** ![Hocus\_Pocus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/41988e/32.png) [@Hocus\_Pocus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hocus_Pocus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-generally-more-patriotic-than-democrats/791627/242 "2017-07-21T22:56:21Z")

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> [@Kearsen](#):
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> You say abortion banning like its a bad thing. (Again, the right sees it as protecting an unborn life)

What about protecting life that has been born? One can’t be “pro-life” while attempting to yank healthcare away from 32 million Americans.

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**Author:** ![Warm\_blood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Warm\_blood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Warm_blood)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-generally-more-patriotic-than-democrats/791627/243 "2017-07-22T20:47:47Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> And if there was a poll in which people were asked to define themselves as either  
> Homosexual  
> Heterosexual  
> Very Heterosexual  
> Extremely Heterosexual  
> Extremely and Very Heterosexual  
> The Most Heterosexual Person that ever walked the Freaking Earth
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> would you suspect that people that ONLY answered “heterosexual” might really be gay? Would you think the guys that answered “The Most Heterosexual Person That Ever Walked The Freaking Earth” was more heterosexual than the guy that just said “heterosexual”?

That is not a comparable situation. At all.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-generally-more-patriotic-than-democrats/791627/244 "2017-07-22T21:03:51Z")

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> [@Kearsen](#):
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> You say discriminatory voter laws, the right doesn’t seem them as discriminatory, merely a way to validate the right to vote. (Protecting freedom)  
> You say abortion banning like its a bad thing. (Again, the right sees it as protecting an unborn life)  
> Bathroom laws. Some might see that as protecting (in fact it has been framed that way, little Mary from predatory people …
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> I could refute almost every single point you could throw since they all depend on point of view.

Yeah, and the Confederacy was all about protecting the freedom to own other people. Pretty much anything can be reframed as “protecting freedom” if you wrench hard enough on the definition of “freedom.”

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-republicans-generally-more-patriotic-than-democrats/791627/245 "2017-07-22T21:05:16Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> **Wolfpup** and **Anny Middon** didn’t quantify your statements, but you did say “the Republican style of patriotism” and “conservatives” without a qualifier. The sense I get from reading your posts is that you believe that this view of patriotism (“unconditional” / ‘shouldn’t dare to think there’s something wrong with the country’) is widespread among people on the other side of the aisle from you. Is that your view? If so, how did you come to that conclusion? Or should I take this as just more personal anecdotes about the minuscule fraction of Republicans and conservatives that you’ve interacted with directly?

I’m not saying all conservatives feel this way, but that anyone back in the late 60s early 70s who touted “America Love It or Leave it” was conservative. Yes, every single one of them. I was one of those goddamn hippies who were trying to ruin America, so I did hear from quite a few of them.

But it turns out this attitude is still present today. A woman who belongs to a group I’m a member of got a letter, addressed to her but unsigned, that read in total:

U.S.A.  
Love it or Leave it  
President Donald Trump  
Our President  
Let’s Make America Great Again

There can be no doubt that the person who sent this is conservative.

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