# Why are the Democrats so hell bent to Impeach Trump? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755 "2019-07-28T15:06:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/1 "2019-07-28T15:06:07Z")
I’m trying to understand why the Democrats are risking the next election over impeaching Trump. Can we all agree that no evidence of collusion was ever found between the Trump campaign and Russia? Yes, Trump ranted about the investigation. Yes he threatened to fire Mueller. That can be viewed as obstruction of justice. Does it really require impeachment? Most polls indicate the American people don’t think so. The Democrats are risking the next presidential election over this issue. Speaker Pelosi is fighting hard to keep them from jumping off the cliff. It’s not working. > **[Democrats take new step forward toward impeachment | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/07/26/democrats-impeachment-donald-trump-pelosi-pkg-lead-vpx-serfaty.cnn)** > > House Democrats took a major step forward in their legal fight against President Donald Trump with the House Judiciary Committee moving to obtain the secret grand jury material from special counsel Robert Mueller's report in federal court, arguing... This will end very badly for the Democrats. IMHO Pelosi knows that and no one in her party will listen. FWIW I had hopes a strong candidate could defeat Trump. But AOC and her buddies and this crusade to Impeach is making that less and less likely. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/2 "2019-07-28T15:07:10Z")
I don’t think it would necessarily end badly for them at all. Yes, no chance at all the Senate convicts. But it shows that House Democrats are doing something. And with an election nearing, doing something will usually be seen better than not doing something. ---
**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/3 "2019-07-28T15:08:28Z")
I hang around those of the liberal bent and no one really wants Trump impeached. Many, like me, fear Pence more than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/4 "2019-07-28T15:08:44Z")
Because he does more impeachable things before breakfast than Nixon did his entire time in office. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/5 "2019-07-28T15:23:53Z")
I want to see Trump out of office. The best way is for the Democrats to support a strong candidate that can draw votes from the middle and left. Next year’s election is how we can rid ourselves of Trump. I’m very concerned fringe elements of Democrats aren’t going to allow that to happen. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/6 "2019-07-28T15:25:37Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > … > Can we all agree that no evidence of collusion was ever found between the Trump campaign and Russia? > … Interesting fact: (I’ll share it because it’s clear that you don’t know this, why else would you post what you did?) Collusion is no crime. Ignorance fought! Hooray! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/7 "2019-07-28T15:26:48Z")
He has broken the law and should be impeached. We risk the balance of powers if Congress cedes all responsibility in this. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/8 "2019-07-28T15:36:45Z")
_Many_ Democrats, not \*the \*Democrats. Why? Because of their constitutional duty to the country. Impeachment is to protect the nation from the continued presence in office of someone who has or is committing high crimes and misdemeanors, prior to the next election. The need to do so is further amplified by the DOJ’s policy (not law) against pursuing criminal prosecution against sitting presidents. Maybe the OP should ask why the Republicans, both individually and collectively,\* aren’t\*. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/9 "2019-07-28T15:56:16Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I want to see Trump out of office. > > The best way is for the Democrats to support a strong candidate that can draw votes from the middle and left. > > Next year’s election is how we can rid ourselves of Trump. > > I’m very concerned fringe elements of Democrats aren’t going to allow that to happen. It’s not enough to simply vote him out of office. I want to see him tarred & feathered and driven out in handcuffs, sent directly to jail, do not collect $200, and his only legacy being a biography titled, “Chapter 7”, while his progeny is forced to eek out a living starring in Celebrity Rehab, seasons 7, 8, 9…etc. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/10 "2019-07-28T15:57:36Z")
There are two aspects, really. One, does he deserve to be impeached? Almost everyone I know who isn’t a republican thinks he surely does. Most think he should be in jail. The other aspect is, is it politically wise to impeach him? That is a quite different answer. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/11 "2019-07-28T15:57:54Z")
The Atlantic had an article a few months back, arguing the various merits of impeachment proceedings (not necessarily impeachment.) Ranging from allowing various investigative tools, possibly focusing the public’s mind on misdoings, distracting the administration by forcing them to defend themselves… I was not entirely convinced, but I suggest it as a discussion of the various merits/hazards of pursuing impeachment proceedings. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/12 "2019-07-28T16:09:04Z")
We’re hellbent on having slow, draggy-assed hearings over the 2020 primary election which keeps Trump’s (and the GOP’s) corruption in the public eye daily. But thanks for your concern! We got it from here now, kthxbye. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/13 "2019-07-28T16:11:22Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > The Atlantic had an article a few months back, arguing the various merits of impeachment proceedings (not necessarily impeachment.) Ranging from allowing various investigative tools, possibly focusing the public’s mind on misdoings, distracting the administration by forcing them to defend themselves… > > I was not entirely convinced, but I suggest it as a discussion of the various merits/hazards of pursuing impeachment proceedings. I’m convinced that this is the approach that Pelosi and Nadler are advocating. Though Nadler is being more vocal about it ultimately leading to impeachment. I also think (when my frustration at the slow roll doesn’t get the best of me) that they are aiming to have the height of the investigations (congressional and 14 others) and court enforced subpoenaed testimonies to hit in early 2020, lasting all the way through until election. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/14 "2019-07-28T16:40:45Z")
They are hellbent because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. They cannot accept the fact that they were beaten by a mere amateur and it makes them too crazy to think clearly. At least the Democrats have the option of opposing him. The Republicans (who were just as badly beaten) are equally deranged, but they find it necessary to pretend to like him. Imagine the cognitive dissonance they are suffering from! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/15 "2019-07-28T16:46:54Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > They are hellbent because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. They cannot accept the fact that they were beaten by a mere amateur and it makes them too crazy to think clearly. At least the Democrats have the option of opposing him. The Republicans (who were just as badly beaten) are equally deranged, but they find it necessary to pretend to like him. Imagine the cognitive dissonance they are suffering from! It’s not that he’s an “amateur,” but that he’s an incompetent, immoral, asshole. He has revealed that a huge percentage of our fellow citizens are truly deplorable. He’s corrupt, ignorant, and dangerous to a degree we didn’t think possible. And he might win re-election ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/16 "2019-07-28T17:01:16Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It’s not that he’s an “amateur,” but that he’s an incompetent, immoral, asshole. > > He has revealed that a huge percentage of our fellow citizens are truly deplorable. > > He’s corrupt, ignorant, and dangerous to a degree we didn’t think possible. > > And he might win re-election H.L. Mencken tried to warn us. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/17 "2019-07-28T17:20:47Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It’s not that he’s an “amateur,” but that he’s an incompetent, immoral, asshole. You left out “criminal”. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/18 "2019-07-28T17:22:37Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Interesting fact: (I’ll share it because it’s clear that you don’t know this, why else would you post what you did?) Collusion is no crime. > Ignorance fought! Hooray! Can we all agree that if Obama did what trump did, collusion would surprisingly be found to be a crime and he would have been impeached? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/19 "2019-07-28T17:41:19Z")
Well today Trump is shining a light on the fact that Obama criminally, um, wrote a book. So I guess both sides do it. No, that can’t be- Trump never wrote any book. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755/20 "2019-07-28T17:44:15Z")
Trump never READ a book. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-democrats-so-hell-bent-to-impeach-trump/837755.md?page=2)