# Why are the moderators here biased and intellectually dishonest?

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**Created:** [July 1, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149 "2010-07-01T02:37:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/81 "2010-07-01T16:21:54Z")

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A personal plea here to the biased and intellectually dishonest moderators: can we please not allow this to be hijacked into yet another endlessly rehashed **lekatt** sideshow? There’s plenty of bafflingly obtuse material to dig through here without that on top of it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/82 "2010-07-01T16:27:40Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> A personal plea here to the biased and intellectually dishonest moderators: can we please not allow this to be hijacked into yet another endlessly rehashed **lekatt** sideshow? There’s plenty of bafflingly obtuse material to dig through here without that on top of it.

On the other hand, if the topic is “bafflingly obtuse”, why wouldn’t you want to go with your “A” game?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/83 "2010-07-01T16:29:55Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> On the other hand, if the topic is “bafflingly obtuse”, why wouldn’t you want to go with your “A” game?

Why waste an All-Star pitcher when you have a high school kid at the plate?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/84 "2010-07-01T16:31:25Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> Why waste an All-Star pitcher when you have a high school kid at the plate?

We had better stop before this gets moved to The Game Room. 😃

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/85 "2010-07-01T16:34:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> On the other hand, if the topic is “bafflingly obtuse”, why wouldn’t you want to go with your “A” game?

Good point, but I’m acting on purely personal motivation here. There’s only so much I can take before my brain cells start killing each other in a mass murder/suicide pact, and since I’m not even halfway through my PhD program, I can’t afford to lose many more.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/86 "2010-07-01T16:47:04Z")

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It’s a good day for a seasoned poster around here when they come to the realization that many of the real gems to be discovered on the SDMB can be found in, of all places, About This Message Board.

Case in point.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/87 "2010-07-01T16:50:34Z")

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> [@lekatt](#):
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> Why am I not allowed to post from my blog where I have stored information on quantum mechanics that are no different than that material found elsewhere on the Internet. Why is my site being discriminated against and not all other poster’s sites.

Leaving any issues with the rules aside, IMO it’s simply crass to use message board posts as an excuse to whore out one’s own website. I mean, seriously, have a little class.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/88 "2010-07-01T17:01:04Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If we dare to disagree with your unsubstantiated claims or correct your constant misuse of common words and phrases, we are _discriminating against your religious beliefs?_

Let’s not infer “religious” here - **lekatt** just said “beliefs”. The last thing we need is a Church of Quantum Mechanics and Spiritual Oneness.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/89 "2010-07-01T17:02:47Z")

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> [@lekatt](#):
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> Quantum mechanics are a scientific issue in anybody’s language.

Quantum mechanics is a science. You were arguing that quantum mechanics indicates there is life after death, that god is love, and everything is one consciousness. That’s not science. It has nothing to do with quantum mechanics either, actually.

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> Why am I not allowed to post from my blog where I have stored information on quantum mechanics that are no different than that material found elsewhere on the Internet.

You asked me the same question two weeks ago, and maybe more recently, and I answered it then. I’m not doing it again. This has been explained to you over and over and over and over and over again. At this point you’re either ignoring it or not capable of understanding it. Try this: if the material is already found elsewhere on the internet, do what everybody else here does and link to one of those places.

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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/90 "2010-07-01T17:02:55Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> You persisted in mischaracterizing that post over the course of three pages, going to extraordinary lengths attempting to prove the point that was not even based in fact, to the point where you were interrupting your own thread with that off-topic discussion. After you were called on your error, twice, you still went out of your way to post multiple times playing semantic games in an attempt to cover your butt. If that is what you portray as “slightly misread” and “corrected” I am afraid to see what you consider forthright honesty. I am hardly going to bother “acknowledging” your version of an event when it bears so little relationship to what happened.

**Yes I admit I slightly misread a comment from “a few months” to “a month”. Literally it was one word.** When you pointed it out, I IMMEDIATELY corrected it and literally said “fair enough”, READ THE THREAD. Yet your response was to state lies about my intentions which you made up to be, “to derail my own thread”? That does not even make any sense! Just because I was unaware I misread the initial comment for 3 pages does not mean it was any more intentional. I didn’t play semantic games, I CORRECTED my statement to be factually correct which you deny for no other reason than to be a bully. And guess what? **I was still right**.

**You keep fucking lying about my intentions and stating absolute bullshit about a post I slightly misread.** I wanted to discuss the list not some comment that I demonstrated to be baseless. **I am not going to sit here and let you make up lies about my intentions.**

> [@tomndebb](#):
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> At any rate, anyone who wishes may read over the thread and see what really happened.

PLEASE read the thread and see how you don’t even ask what happened, you just used your demonstratively biased moderating abilities to pass “judgment” on an honest mistake just so you could smear me with your strawman argument.

How the hell are you a moderator? So does everyone who honestly slightly misreads a comment automatically get on the receiving end of your absolutely wrong and biased “judgments”?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/91 "2010-07-01T17:04:06Z")

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> [@lekatt](#):
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> Fortunately for us all there are agencies that don’t see discrimination against someone due to their beliefs as being all that funny.

Wait, what does this mean?

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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/92 "2010-07-01T17:06:14Z")

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This bullshit has never been answered,

\*\*Moderator tomndebb insisted I provided evidence to support my claim that people believed no peer-reviewed papers exists supporting skepticism of “man-made” global warming and when I irrefutably did by linking to U.S. Senator John Kerry’s own words, he fabricated a new magical criteria that “scientists must be against my position for it to be a valid argument not politicians”! WTF?

Someone please explain how an argument can be invalid if a standing U.S. Senator’s own words is a source I am arguing against?\*\*

This is such obvious bullshit anyone with an ounce of intellectual honest can see it.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/93 "2010-07-01T17:09:51Z")

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That reminds me. I’m fresh out of intellectual honest. I must drop by my neighbors’ and borrow a few ounces.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/94 "2010-07-01T17:11:55Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> \*\ ***You keep fucking lying about my intentions and stating absolute bullshit about a post I slightly misread.** I wanted to discuss the list not some comment that I demonstrated to be baseless. **I am not going to sit here and let you make up lies about my intentions.**

When did this thread get moved back to The BBQ Pit?

_checks location_

I guess it didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/95 "2010-07-01T17:12:30Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> That reminds me. I’m fresh out of intellectual honest. I must drop by my neighbors’ and borrow a few ounces.

Good bring some back for the rest of them correctly spelled.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/96 "2010-07-01T17:21:02Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> Good bring some back for the rest of them correctly spelled.

You make the baby Miss Sullivan\* cry.

\*my 5th grade grammar teacher

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/97 "2010-07-01T17:23:27Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> My question is why are the moderators here biased an intellectually dishonest?

Because you touch yourself at night.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/98 "2010-07-01T17:33:37Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> **You keep fucking lying about my intentions and stating absolute bullshit about a post I slightly misread.** I wanted to discuss the list not some comment that I demonstrated to be baseless. **I am not going to sit here and let you make up lies about my intentions.**

This sort of talk isn’t helpful. Please dial it back a notch.

**Gfactor**  
Administrator

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/99 "2010-07-01T17:36:28Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Quantum mechanics is a science. You were arguing that quantum mechanics indicates there is life after death, that god is love, and everything is one consciousness. That’s not science. It has nothing to do with quantum mechanics either, actually.  
> You asked me the same question two weeks ago, and maybe more recently, and I answered it then. I’m not doing it again. This has been explained to you over and over and over and over and over again. At this point you’re either ignoring it or not capable of understanding it. Try this: if the material is already found elsewhere on the internet, do what everybody else here does and link to one of those places.

A bunch of BS again, my exact quote:

> [@](#):
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> Science materialism will never show the existence of non-corporal existenses, so you will never believe. However Quantum Mechanics is pointing the way to non-corporal existences right now, and will no doubt become more popular in the future.

You didn’t anwswer the other question before either. Because there is no rational answer. Just one of total discrimination and prejudice.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/100 "2010-07-01T17:44:38Z")

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> [@lekatt](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Science materialism will never show the existence of non-corporal existenses

> [@lekatt](#):
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> However Quantum Mechanics is pointing the way to non-corporal existences right now, and will no doubt become more popular in the future.

> [@lekatt](#):
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> Quantum mechanics are a scientific issue in anybody’s language.

How do you absorb contradictions like this? And what were you saying about agencies? This board is not a state, and the moderation is not a government.

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