# Why are the moderators here biased and intellectually dishonest? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 1, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149 "2010-07-01T02:37:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/101 "2010-07-01T18:02:52Z")
We have always been at war with Eastasia. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/102 "2010-07-01T18:09:05Z")
> [@Poptech](#): > > This is such obvious bullshit anyone with an ounce of intellectual honest can see it. Have you considered placing this at the top of each of your posts? ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/103 "2010-07-01T19:20:30Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > How do you absorb contradictions like this? And what were you saying about agencies? This board is not a state, and the moderation is not a government. There are no contradictions. Quantum mechanics is not materialism. If you would learn something about it you would know that. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/104 "2010-07-01T19:22:52Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Quantum mechanics is not materialism. If you would learn something about it you would know that. What on earth do you think it is then? Spiritualism? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/105 "2010-07-01T19:25:19Z")
I thought it was a Bond movie. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/106 "2010-07-01T19:27:19Z")
Do Quantum mechanics work on Passats now? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/107 "2010-07-01T19:44:23Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > There are no contradictions. > Quantum mechanics is not materialism. If you would learn something about it you would know that. Most people aren’t proud they’re laughably uneducated. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/108 "2010-07-01T19:44:26Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Now unless you extend that same rule to everyone on the board you could be violating my civil rights by your prejudice against my site. Is this statement, which is misguided, a threat of legal action? If not, why make the statement? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/109 "2010-07-01T20:25:31Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Now unless you extend that same rule to everyone on the board you could be violating my civil rights by your prejudice against my site. lol ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/110 "2010-07-01T20:32:55Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I thought it was a Bond movie. That’s _Quantum of Solipsism_ ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/111 "2010-07-01T21:08:52Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Now unless you extend that same rule to everyone on the board you could be violating my civil rights by your prejudice against my site. You know, I have to apologize. Upon further reflection, I realize that lekatt is absolutely correct here. No, no, hang on. Hear me out. What applies to one should apply to all. I am personally willing to abide by this rule, and I think we should all take a step back and realize that it CAN work as a board-wide rule. I hereby propose that it be made a formal rule that NOBODY, no matter who they are, or how clever they think they are, be allowed to link to ANYTHING, no matter how relevant or important it may be, that’s hosted on lekatt’s site. It’s a bold move, I know, but I firmly believe that it will help make this a better place. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/112 "2010-07-01T21:17:30Z")
> [@Poptech](#): > > **You keep fucking lying about my intentions and stating absolute bullshit about a post I slightly misread.** I wanted to discuss the list not some comment that I demonstrated to be baseless. **I am not going to sit here and let you make up lies about my intentions.** There is a difference between “lying about someone else’s intentions” and “not believing someone when they state their own intentions.” **tom~** seems to be doing the latter, not the former. I’m not entirely sure if it’s even possible to do the former - only you can know what your true intentions are. Any statement about your intentions by a third party is obviously going to be conjecture based on your overall behavior, and as such, can only be reasonably read as a reflection on the believability of your stated intention, and therefore not a “lie” about what you really believe. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/113 "2010-07-01T21:18:05Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Quantum mechanics is not materialism. If you would learn something about it you would know that. I know a bit about quantum mechanics, and this sounds like another one of those cases where your definition of a word doesn’t match anyone else’s. You’ve spent a lot posts railing against science and saying that people who trust science are closed-minded materialists, but here you are arguing that quantum mechanics proves your pet theories about god. And somehow, the science that explains the basic structure of the universe at its smallest levels is “not materialism.” It’s possible to get some spiritual implications from quantum mechanics, but you’re making it up as you go along. Quantum mechanics doesn’t demonstrate that god is love, the same way it doesn’t prove vanilla is better than chocolate. It has nothing to do with either subject. Now what were you saying about your civil rights? ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/114 "2010-07-01T22:03:06Z")
> [@Poptech](#): > > This bullshit has never been answered, > > \*\*Moderator tomndebb insisted I provided evidence to support my claim that people believed no peer-reviewed papers exists supporting skepticism of “man-made” global warming and when I irrefutably did by linking to U.S. Senator John Kerry’s own words, he fabricated a new magical criteria that “scientists must be against my position for it to be a valid argument not politicians”! WTF? > > Someone please explain how an argument can be invalid if a standing U.S. Senator’s own words is a source I am arguing against?\*\* > > This is such obvious bullshit anyone with an ounce of intellectual honest can see it. Because John Kerry is just a senator. He’s not a scientist. He probably doesn’t publish peer-reviewed _anything_, because his peers are not fellow scientists. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/115 "2010-07-01T23:22:07Z")
Well, reading this thread was somewhat entertaining. I do have a questin for **lekatt** and **Poptech**. Honest, if you’re so convinced this board is so awful and the mods are so biased and unfiar, what the hell are you doing here? If it truly sucks that bad then take your truth, justice, and steely minds to another board where you can be appreciated for the light bringers you truly are. Otherwise you’ll just sound like whiny kids and we don’t want that do we? ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/116 "2010-07-01T23:25:08Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > But they’re moderators. That’s not like people. I . . . am not . . . an ANIMAL!!! except sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/117 "2010-07-01T23:25:40Z")
I forgot to mention the above post missed some coding: [Charlton Heston] ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/118 "2010-07-01T23:28:37Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > I forgot to mention the above post missed some coding: [Charlton Heston] I think he’s much hairier. ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/119 "2010-07-01T23:47:47Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Well, reading this thread was somewhat entertaining. I do have a questin for **lekatt** and **Poptech**. > > Honest, if you’re so convinced this board is so awful and the mods are so biased and unfiar, what the hell are you doing here? If it truly sucks that bad then take your truth, justice, and steely minds to another board where you can be appreciated for the light bringers you truly are… Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/120 "2010-07-01T23:48:40Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Honest, if you’re so convinced this board is so awful and the mods are so biased and unfair, what the hell are you doing here? Agreed. Please, **Poptech** , may I suggest you go somewhere where your views and opinions will be valued, and stop wasting the Moderators’ time. They are unpaid volunteers, it’s a thankless and difficult job, and they really don’t need you coming along and starting threads like this. If you think it’s unfair, well, so what? You think it’s unfair. Have a sob and move on. Frankly, no-one else cares. Find some friends who will appreciate your wisdom and have a great time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149.md?page=7)