# Why are the moderators here biased and intellectually dishonest?

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**Created:** [July 1, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149 "2010-07-01T02:37:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/141 "2010-07-02T01:11:11Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> I, too, wish to know how **Marley23** could moderate the comments against you by telling the people making them to cut out the personal insults and simultaneously ignore those comments. What did he not do that you think he should have done that would have constituted not ignoring them?

Only a few were moderated, the rest allowed even though they are direct personal attacks simply because the moderators support these attacks. They are using their personal beliefs to bias their moderation as they believe AGW skeptics to be deniers and supports or creationism or conspiracy theories. Regardless some were directly ignored and not moderated and excuses used to justify it. My point about ignoring them is how they presented the argument, they do so in the context as if I was all me and the ones whom they let personally attack me did nothing wrong.

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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/142 "2010-07-02T01:12:13Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> The way you presented things led to fighting, not debating.

Try reading the thread and you can clearly see it was those responding to me who wanted to fight.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/143 "2010-07-02T01:28:09Z")

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I like my mittens. They are a hug for my fingers.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/144 "2010-07-02T01:36:09Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> **SoulFrost** said:
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> > [@](#):
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> > Because John Kerry is just a senator.
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> > He’s not a scientist. He probably doesn’t publish peer-reviewed anything, because his peers are not fellow scientists.
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> Maybe it’s because I didn’t read the whole other thread, but I am seeing **Poptech** ’s point here. His original post was that _ **people** _ believe that there is no credible peer-reviewed papers supporting skepticism of the man-made nature of AGW. Notice that his post does not state “scientists”, it states “people”. The last time I checked, Senators counted as “people”. Okay, marginally, but slightly moreso than lawyers and somewhat less than circus clowns.
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> Can somebody show me where **Poptech** posted the claim that _scientists_ believe there is no scientific criticism of AGW?

I think you’re right. I misread. In my defense, though, I gave up trying to parse his word usage two threads ago.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/145 "2010-07-02T02:57:25Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> How can I be ignoring them if I moderated them? …

> [@Marley23](#):
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> I like my mittens. They are a hug for my fingers.

Well there’s your problem … moderator mittens. :dubious:  
(Unless you mean [these](http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=mitten%20gauntlets&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi)? :eek:)

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/146 "2010-07-02T02:57:39Z")

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I think it’s great that Soulfrost is still trying to make sense of this. Keep it up, dude.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/147 "2010-07-02T03:10:51Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I like my mittens. They are a hug for my fingers.

I think you mean “My cat’s breath smells like catfood.”

Or maybe [When come back bring pie.](http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/pie)

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/148 "2010-07-02T03:13:04Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> My point about ignoring them is how they presented the argument, they do so in the context as if I was all me and the ones whom they let personally attack me did nothing wrong.

Great sentence. “As if I was all me”, indeed. Can we all just agree _not_ to suggest in future that Poptech is all him?

BTW, **Poptech** , have you tried decaffeinated?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/149 "2010-07-02T03:15:37Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> At any rate, anyone who wishes may read over the thread and see what really happened.

Hey! Why should I read that thread? I didn’t do anything wrong. :eek:

That could be a useful thought for mods though, “No warning issued, if you read this thread in atonement. Or say ten Hail Mary’s, same difference.”

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/150 "2010-07-02T03:22:26Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> as if I was all me

Do you have a tapeworm?

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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/151 "2010-07-02T03:38:56Z")

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> [@ianzin](#):
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> Great sentence. “As if I was all me”, indeed. Can we all just agree _not_ to suggest in future that Poptech is all him?
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> BTW, **Poptech** , have you tried decaffeinated?

Too much Redbull = many typos. I need a 24 hour edit timer.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/152 "2010-07-02T03:59:22Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> Too much Redbull

Suddenly this thread makes a lot more sense.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/153 "2010-07-02T04:59:01Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> I . . . am not . . . an ANIMAL!!!
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> except sometimes.

> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> I forgot to mention the above post missed some coding: [Charlton Heston]

[John Hurt] (The Elephant Man)

Fixed your coding.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/154 "2010-07-02T05:39:52Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> It was not censored from the Great Debates forum?

From Merriam-Webster:

> [@](#):
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> Main Entry: censor  
> Function: transitive verb  
> Inflected Form(s): cen·sored; cen·sor·ing \ˈsen(t)-sə-riŋ, ˈsen(t)s-riŋ  
> Date: 1882  
> : to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable \<censor the news\>; also : to suppress or delete as objectionable \<censor out indecent passages\>

Your thread was neither suppressed nor deleted, nor was any part of it. It was not censored. It was merely moved.

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**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/155 "2010-07-02T05:42:23Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Any chance we could arrange a thread discussion between Poptech and Peter Morris? I think they’d get along swimmingly.

Loonies never debate each other. They might make a dismissive comment here and there (like Poptech did with the 9/11 CT stuff) to make themselves seem normal, but they never get into a real discussion with each other about their respective flavours of loonitude.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/156 "2010-07-02T06:34:46Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> Again, you cannot support you baseless claims,
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> **Name one piece of misinformation I posted**
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> Each time I call you or Tom on them you fabricate new strawmen to make excuses for your biased moderating.

Well, saying that your thread was censored would be one, but I imagine you meant a piece of misinformation you posted in the original thread, and not one that you posted in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/157 "2010-07-02T06:40:44Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> From Merriam-Webster:
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> Your thread was neither suppressed nor deleted, nor was any part of it. It was not censored. It was merely moved.

> [@Miller](#):
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> Well, saying that your thread was censored would be one, but I imagine you meant a piece of misinformation you posted in the original thread, and not one that you posted in this thread.

It was suppressed and deleted (censored) from the Great Debates forum.

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**Author:** ![Poptech](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poptech/32/7292_2.png) [@Poptech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poptech)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/158 "2010-07-02T06:41:48Z")

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> [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](#):
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> Loonies never debate each other. They might make a dismissive comment here and there (like Poptech did with the 9/11 CT stuff) to make themselves seem normal, but they never get into a real discussion with each other about their respective flavours of loonitude.

Please explain how I am a “loony”.

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/159 "2010-07-02T08:47:22Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> It was suppressed and deleted (censored) from the Great Debates forum.

You’re adding a qualification which is not included in the definition. The definition does not specify “…from the Great Debates forum.”

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-the-moderators-here-biased-and-intellectually-dishonest/545149/160 "2010-07-02T09:02:09Z")

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> [@Poptech](#):
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> It was suppressed and deleted (censored) from the Great Debates forum.

Help! Help! I’m being suppressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

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