# Why are there no restaraunts that have decent Mole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 17, 2001, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678 "2001-08-17T02:51:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/1 "2001-08-17T02:51:53Z")
Having grown up in a family where several relatives come from central America, Honduras to be exact, I am used to eating delicious Mole. It is spicy and flavorful. Every Mexican, or south-of-the-border restaraunt I have visited brings out this sickingly sweet chocolate tasting crap. My family has no secret recipe, they get the mole powder from grocery stores (although the favorite brand is more recently hard to come by). I thought it may have to do with tastes up here, but I don’t buy that. The sauce the tortillas get dunked in at many places can make most people beg for milk. The closest restaraunt to the real deal was still too sweet, but had a bit of a bite. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/2 "2001-08-17T02:58:24Z")
You mean, actual MOLES??? EEEEEWWWWW!!! ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/3 "2001-08-17T03:07:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*You mean, actual MOLES??? > EEEEEWWWWW!!! \*\* Mole, as in the dish, a spicy-sweet kind of gravy that is mixes with chicken, turkey, or whatever, is pronounced with a short e sound at the end. As in mo-lay. You either are unaware of the dish, or you are attempting to be a smart-ass. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/4 "2001-08-17T03:23:56Z")
“Count de Money, Count de Money!” “That’s de Mo-NAY, de Mo-NAY!” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/5 "2001-08-17T03:43:10Z")
We have one that has a pretty good mole. Their shrew leaves something to be desired, though. How about making your own? You should be able to find ancho peppers in Houston. Then again, you should be able to find decent mole there, too. AT least a mix. Perhaps if you ate at a real restaurant rather that some Pedro McNasty’s chain place. ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/6 "2001-08-17T04:16:09Z")
Want to know more about [mole](http://www.ramekins.com/mole/whatmole.html), and how to make it, visit the link. Sadly, I have found no restraunts in central MN that even mention mole, on their menu’s. **BASTARDS!!!** [sub]this is a Pit thread, isn’t it?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Reemul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Reemul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reemul)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/7 "2001-08-17T05:07:07Z")
I’ll throw up a “me too”. I grew up in El Paso, and while we may not have had the authentic mole seen down south, i came to love what we had. I live in central Texas now… and the so-called “mexican” food is … i wish i was back in El Paso sometimes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/8 "2001-08-17T05:12:33Z")
We talking green mole or brown mole? I like them both, but I agree most restaurants seem to use the sweeter types. My friend’s Mom cooks excellent chicken with mole, by the time it’s done the meat’s falling off the bones. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/9 "2001-08-17T06:41:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by imthjckaz \* > \*\*Want to know more about [mole](http://www.ramekins.com/mole/whatmole.html), and how to make it, visit the link. > > Sadly, I have found no restraunts in central MN that even mention mole, on their menu’s. > **BASTARDS!!!** \*\* Pfft. You live in a town that can’t make decent club sandwiches and thinks of Indian food as something off the res, and you’re bitching about mole? 😛 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/10 "2001-08-17T12:47:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by chique \* > \*\*You live in a town that can’t make decent club sandwiches \*\* A town in MN where they can’t make a decent club sandwich? Liar! There IS no such place! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/11 "2001-08-17T13:14:22Z")
I’m sorry, but I saw a thread about eating ‘Mole’ started by ‘Road Rash’ and a I though ‘roadkill’. So the OP made me a little a nausious at first… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/12 "2001-08-17T13:58:21Z")
Unaware of the dish. sorry. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/13 "2001-08-17T14:03:43Z")
Come on up to Dallas. There is a restaurant called _Javiers_ that makes an excellent chicken molĕ. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/14 "2001-08-17T14:05:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by adam yax \* > \*\*…an excellent chicken molĕ. \*\* Of course that is supposed to be mole. I tried to cut and paste an E with the accent over it. Didn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![False\_God](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@False\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/False_God)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/15 "2001-08-17T14:19:57Z")
[http://www.ramekins.com/mole/recipesmole.html](http://www.ramekins.com/mole/recipesmole.html) [http://mexicanfood.about.com/library/blrmol.htm?once=true&](http://mexicanfood.about.com/library/blrmol.htm?once=true&) And I sympathize with the sentiment in the OP. Living in Arlington,VA, which boasts numerous immigrant communities, you’d think we could get decent Mexican food.Apparently, though, most of the _hispiohablantes_ that come here are from Salvador or other places in Central America rather than Mexico. By my count, there are exactly TWO places that turn out good Mexican food. The newest is run by a chef from Sonora, and he’s got the real stuff goin’ on. Brain and tongue tacos and the salsa is right. Mmm, prions. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/16 "2001-08-17T14:22:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by False\_God \* > \*\*The newest is run by a chef from Sonora, and he’s got the real stuff goin’ on. Brain and tongue tacos and the salsa is right. Mmm, prions. \*\* What? No tripe? ---
**Author:** ![False\_God](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@False\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/False_God)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/17 "2001-08-17T14:30:15Z")
Tripe only if you ask special (as a taco filling) and he does sometimes do menudo, which had tripe as well as calves feet. ---
**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/18 "2001-08-17T14:42:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by False\_God \* > Tripe only if you ask special (as a taco filling) and he does sometimes do **menudo** , which had tripe as well as calves feet. First small mammals, now **Boy Bands**? Seriously, I did have some decent molé the last time I was in San Diego. Of course that was years ago… ---
**Author:** ![Opengrave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/919ad9/32.png) [@Opengrave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Opengrave)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/19 "2001-08-17T15:04:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > \*\*“Count de Money, Count de Money!” > “That’s de Mo-NAY, de Mo-NAY!” \*\* Rook, jump Queen. Bishop, jump Queen. Everybody jump Queen. GANG BANG! ---
**Author:** ![SqrlCub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SqrlCub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SqrlCub)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678/20 "2001-08-17T15:40:24Z")
The problem with finding mole is that you are in Houston. There are several good restaurants in San Antonio that have good mole. Don’t go to the touristy ones as they typically suck. I used to like the mole at Tomatillos and Rosarios. I don’t know if the latter is still around as I don’t live in San Antonio anymore. I feel your pain. I crave mole about once a year and am usually too lazy to make it. The places up here that serve it oftentimes make it really gross (like adding sugar… blech… or not adding any spices and just mixing cocoa and water… extra blech). So I typically do without. Good luck on finding a place in Houston that serves good mole. You are too far from the border to get it typically speaking. 🙂 Or better yet, move farther up north and try to get used to the bastardized version and then move back to Houston and find that it is actually much better than what you had been having. HUGS! Sqrl [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-there-no-restaraunts-that-have-decent-mole/76678.md?page=2)