Why are there so many 20-30 year old smokers?

Why, indeed? Why ever? I’m 60 years old, and even in my parents’ day, long before I was ever born, there was plenty of recommendation to not smoke. Tobacco has always been addictive, which is why it was especially taxed and regulated (BATF, always a part of the Treasury Dept until the events of 9/11).

It’s ALWAYS been about peer pressure. Sure, long ago, peer pressure was much more prevalent in that it was seen as a rite of passage to adulthood. But even way back then, there was the additional pressure, “What’s the matter, chicken?”

Now, with all the negative advertising, the expense, the restrictions on indulgence, there is much less smoking, but the peer pressure is still there. The pressure to rebel, to establish your own [perceived] independence, to show you’re “cool.” I have four grown kids, boy, girl, girl, boy. The oldest boy doesn’t smoke. The oldest daughter does. The younger daughter doesn’t, but the youngest boy does. Has nothing to do with household, obviously, or upbringing, nor is it related to sex or age relationship. But the ones who do smoke were (are) more susceptible to peer pressure, and more rebellious to the status quo and rules.

My wife never smoked in spite of peer pressure, but I took it up as a teenager primarily by that reason. I finally quit, after the kids had all left home, so I can’t even rationalize how my smoking, or my wife’s lack of it, contributed to our kids. Certainly I’d think the sheer expense would be prohibitive. When I started, a pack cost less than 25¢. Even adjusting for inflation, that’s $1.30 in 2011 dollars, compared with the $5-$6 a pack cost today.

If you could say with absolute certainty that smoking WILL cause lung cancer, then I might agree. I smoked for 37 years and have no trace of lung cancer, or any other cancer for that matter. Oh, I won’t go so far as to say that it’s had NO effect on my health. I’ve slowed down with less stamina, which may be related to smoking or maybe only to getting older. I wouldn’t rule one way or the other.

No, there is only one REAL reason I quit 7 years ago. One night I was driving home and I realized I only had two cigarettes left. So I knew I had to make a special stop to pick up more. And THAT is what pissed me off; that I was a slave to a habit, that I’d alter my travel intentions based upon smoking. And I refused to do it.

Wanna know about fighting yourself? On the one hand, I’m successful enough to enjoy pretty much whatever I want, and not apologize to anyone. On the other hand, I had the stubborn determination that I wouldn’t be a slave to anyone or anything, even my own habits. It was the classic sci-fi conflict between two people in one body. I was able to fight it by substituting the various habits associated with smoking. Having something to do with my fingers, the “nibbling” habit of my lips, the draft of a substance past my throat (those Hall’s lozenges do the job really well), realizing when the most prevalent needs came up, the urge upon waking up, right after a meal, during relaxation time, right before bed, and gearing my resistance higher for those times.

Turns out it had not a damned thing to do with “addiction”. I’m sure there’s some minor addiction, but that’s purged from your body after 3 weeks. So why does the urge occasionally resurge for more than two years? The comfort of the habit. Fight the habit.

I was afraid that if I went out for a night of drinking, I couldn’t fight the urge. My smoking always doubled while drinking. I was surprised to find it didn’t happen. I was afraid of drinking with people who smoked; that it would re-awaken my dependency. Never happened. The smoke neither offended nor lured me.

But lung cancer? Never was a worry. Smoking increases the RISK, if you’re already susceptible. Avoiding tobacco will not avoid lung cancer; just reduce the risk, which is a pretty good deal in itself. But if you associate smoking with assured lung cancer, then you are just a slave to something else, other people’s propaganda, and that’s a lousy way to go through life; in fear.

That’s not how it works. Smoking doesn’t magically make you drop dead in perfect health. You are more likely to live through more years of ill health if you smoke.

This made me laugh so hard I actually snorted. A defeatist attitude? Towards what, death? I really hate to be the one who has to tell you but, you are going to die.
You seem to think that “smoking will kill you.” A more accurate statement would be that “smoking can cause serious health problems that can prematurely kill you.” If you went to beaches and tanning salons and told everyone there that tanning “will kill you,” people would think you were crazy. If you told these people that “tanning can cause serious health problems that can prematurely kill you,” people wouldn’t think you were crazy. They would think you were really annoying, but not crazy. Can you understand the difference?

Back at the height of the AIDS scare, when everyone thought that just screwing was a risk of infection, there was one woman who absolutely refused to date. Seriously! Her reason? Dating MIGHT lead to sex, and there’s too much risk of AIDS from sex, and she didn’t want to increase her risk of dying early. So, better to never even date, let alone have sex, and of course, marriage was a complete improbability in her life. But at least she’d be safe.

As she chain-smoked one cigarette after another, coughing from congested lungs.

Them that are scared of Life are still going to die from it.

Where do you live? I hardly see any 20-30 year old smokers in Pittsburgh, but I live and am active only in the generally affluent areas. If I see one, they’re in one of two categories: stupid hipster that’s tatted up or a regular person who is trying to quit. If I see one in my hometown, it’s because they’re poor and uneducated, which statistics back up.

A lot of my friends smoke, in that age bracket. Around here, in the UK, it does seem very common.

And this thread’s making me think of joining 'em…

I guess it has been proven scientifically that smoking still makes you look cool.

Here’s a great piece of logic for men in their younger years to smoke:

  1. It makes you look cool, like a rebel, and part of an established group.
  2. That established group has women who are often skinny and attractive as a result of smoking
  3. Women who smoke like to put OTHER things in their mouths too…

'Nuf said!