# Why are these common passwords?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 19, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005 "2009-03-19T08:13:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/1 "2009-03-19T08:13:37Z")

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So I saw a link to this site: [What's My Pass? » The Top 500 Worst Passwords of All Time](http://www.whatsmypass.com/?p=415)

These are supposedly top 500 passwords. Fill me in on the cultural and psychological references.

123456, and variations thereon - well, obviously  
password - yep, sure  
pussy - prurient but why not?  
dragon - umm, what? No. 7 on the list? Why?

Same with mustang, master, monkey, shadow, ranger, hunter, trustno1.

Why are these so popular?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/2 "2009-03-19T08:20:43Z")

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Because they sound cool.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/3 "2009-03-19T09:05:06Z")

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Wasn’t trustno1 Mulder’s password in one episode? I would imagine that was why it is popular.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/4 "2009-03-19T09:56:11Z")

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OK I get ‘trustno1’ now :smack:

The others: “dragon” is so cool it makes number 7 of (presumably) thousands upon thousands of passwords surveyed?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/5 "2009-03-19T10:04:27Z")

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Hey, what’s cooler than a dragon?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/6 "2009-03-19T10:25:54Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Hey, what’s cooler than a dragon?

Pussy

Apparently.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/7 "2009-03-19T10:28:23Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Hey, what’s cooler than a dragon?

A dragon with an arrow in it at the bottom of a lake.

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**Author:** ![Doody\_Pants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@Doody\_Pants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doody_Pants)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/8 "2009-03-19T10:45:30Z")

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Darn it, now I guess I’ll have to stop using dragonpussy1 as my usual password.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/9 "2009-03-19T12:45:27Z")

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“dragon - umm, what? No. 7 on the list? Why?”

Because there are tons of people who like fantasy out there? And I can’t imagine a string of random characters is going to beat it out.

mustang - lots of car fanatics out there  
master - “master password”, I’m guessing.  
monkey - haven’t you always wanted a monkey?  
shadow - probably at the top of a “top 10 pet names” list  
ranger - no idea  
hunter - maybe a common pet name

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/10 "2009-03-19T13:02:24Z")

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People need to remember their passwords, and often don’t realize how easily they can be guessed. So many are taken from favorite popular culture references (I knew a fundie whose password was “god”) or things they can easily remember.

“Joshua,” anyone?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/11 "2009-03-19T16:24:26Z")

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How did they get the list?😕

And, where’s “Swordfish” from the Marx Bros?🆒

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/12 "2009-03-19T16:37:01Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> How did they get the list?😕
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> And, where’s “Swordfish” from the Marx Bros?🆒

You know those emails telling you your Myspace/Facebook/BoA/Goatsx account was going to be closed if you didn’t fill in the form right away? That wasn’t a scam. It was just this site doing legitimate research!

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/13 "2009-03-19T16:51:51Z")

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Where’s “admin” on that last? Or perhaps they’re not counting the common default passwords.

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/14 "2009-03-19T17:46:33Z")

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Looking at that list, I wonder if online games are included in the source of passwords/accounts. If yes, that would explain dragon, hunter, ranger and possibly shadow, monkey and master.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/15 "2009-03-19T17:49:19Z")

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Hunter and Ranger could be favorite WOW and D&D classes, respectively.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/16 "2009-03-19T18:20:16Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> Wasn’t trustno1 Mulder’s password in one episode? I would imagine that was why it is popular.

It was his e-mail address in the episode “trust no 1.”

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/17 "2009-03-19T18:32:54Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> monkey - haven’t you always wanted a monkey?

Yeah, but not a real monkey, that would be cruel.

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/18 "2009-03-19T18:41:26Z")

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What? No “V1@GR@”?

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/19 "2009-03-20T01:24:11Z")

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My first name shows up on the list, which is…odd.

What’s even more interesting is that my default password for signing up to low-priority stuff (newspaper sites, frex) **isn’t** on the list. Who knew that adding a couple of numbers at the end would make it “safe”?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-these-common-passwords/490005/20 "2009-03-20T01:34:45Z")

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Mine does also.

BTW, these are the 500 worst passwords, not the 500 most popular ones, which would be a bit hard to figure out.

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