# Why are thinly veiled racist threads continually allowed in GD? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [October 23, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612 "2012-10-23T13:32:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/21 "2012-10-23T17:28:24Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > The fear is that if everyone who can legitimately debunk the racism follows that advice, we end up with some nasty-ass racist threads hanging out in our forums unchecked and poor uncritically thinking lurkers may swallow the bullshit and, I dunno, go commit a hate crime. What I suspect the OP would prefer is if a mod would shut it down immediately with a note saying, “Don’t bring your nasty-ass skinhead shit up again. We thrashed your ass on it here, here, and here.” which would ideally teach them not to be racist pieces of shit and also be educational for anyone in the peanut gallery who thinks race is something meaningful biologically. I can see the appeal. I’m not saying everybody should ignore them. Just people like the OP who lack the ability to understand that sometimes threads will exist that they don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/22 "2012-10-23T17:44:38Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > This is a ridiculous exaggeration of what’s going on. Chief Pedant has two threads in GD now, only one of which concerns race. The other concerns doping in sports. Did I say right now? Look through his and a few other posters history. Rarely a thread goes by where they don’t somehow connect it to their theories on Black inferiority. > [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#): > > So, the point is that the tighter the mods screw down the lid on things, the bigger negative reaction they get. I am not aware of the situation you are referencing so I cannot comment on that, but I don’t think that (in general) what you are saying is true. > [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#): > > They have to balance the fact that we still have free speech in this country against the fact that racism is illegal, ugly and stupid. Actually they don’t. Free speech applies to the government, not a message board. This is obvious given the various things that are not allowed to be said or argued. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > What I suspect the OP would prefer is if a mod would shut it down immediately with a note saying, “Don’t bring your nasty-ass skinhead shit up again. We thrashed your ass on it here, here, and here.” which would ideally teach them not to be racist pieces of shit and also be educational for anyone in the peanut gallery who thinks race is something meaningful biologically. I can see the appeal. I would prefer two things happen. One, don’t warn people pointing out certain racist posters are racist. Two, don’t allow them to routinely open different threads about essentially the same damn thing. Chief Pedant and the others can create ONE thread to discuss whatever new theory on Black inferiority rather than spreading their shit all over hoping nobody will bother checking them in the umpteenth thread they start on the subject. > [@Tamerlane](#): > > Ultimately, “_I was pretty certain that you were not talking about the immigrants that they are flooding the country with. I call it dumbing us down and darkening us up. Of course me and mine are keeping our distance in our little town that is still bright and light_,” to quote one of our charming WN visitors from that period, only really differs in tone from what **Chen019** is peddling in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=556777). But tone seems to count. I was here for some of that stuff. My annoyance is that they act as if tone should be the most important factor. I would argue that the calm tone the newer guys take is more insidious because it appeals to a broader audience. > [@Tamerlane](#): > > As usual I am ambivalent about the whole mess. You know, I don’t know too much about you, but I personally cannot afford to be ambivalent about stuff like this. As a Black person, and a father, I don’t feel okay sitting idly by while someone convinces others that my skin color makes me stupid. I know you just view this as intellectual masturbation, but one of these fuck faces was supposedly doing admission at a medical school. They, and the people they convince with their drivel, don’t exist in some vacuum. They are real people who go out into the world guided by these prejudices. We collectively should not feel like we can be ambivalent about these things. I get that it make not affect your everyday life, but it certainly makes the world a far worse place, especially for the people they smear with their lies. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/23 "2012-10-23T18:03:55Z")
I don’t know if this would work, but how about it: There should be _one_ permanent thread about race, intelligence, criminality, and genetics, and _this is the only place this topic can be discussed_ (except perhaps when mocking people in the Pit). This thread would probably be bookmarked/pushpinned or whatever in GD, and any other threads started on this topic would be merged into this ongoing thread. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/24 "2012-10-23T18:11:04Z")
> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#): > > (snip) > They have to balance the fact that we still have free speech in this country against the fact that\*\* racism is illegal,\*\* ugly and stupid. Am I allowed to say stupid in this forum? I would check the rules but there are so many rules here that I just don’t have the time to go through them all. (snip) Emphasis added. No, racism is not illegal. Racism is an opinion, and hateful though they may be, opinions are not illegal. Some forms of racial discrimination are illegal, if that is what you meant. I have to go along with what seems to be the majority opinion here. Any time I see any thread title, especially in GD, that mentions race, I automatically assume that the local racists will be swarming all over it, and that they will be both debunked and persistently oblivious to their errors. Rinse and repeat. And why does this place have to serve any value to larger society? This place is by and for the people who post in it and the people who read it. This place is not superior, genetically or otherwise, to other places; it just happens to suit us better, and that’s why we’re here. Roddy ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/25 "2012-10-23T18:21:37Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Chief Pedant and the others can create ONE thread to discuss whatever new theory on Black inferiority rather than spreading their shit all over hoping nobody will bother checking them in the umpteenth thread they start on the subject. Maybe that’s a reasonable compromise. > [@](#): > > You know, I don’t know too much about you, but I personally cannot afford to be ambivalent about stuff like this. As a Black person, and a father, I don’t feel okay sitting idly by while someone convinces others that my skin color makes me stupid. I’m pale as the moon, but my family consists of a bunch of unregenerate miscegenators. My step-father was black and all of my nieces and nephews are various flavors of mixed. So I get your angst ( well, hopefully enough it anyway ). The ambivalence comes in from on the one hand my tendency towards pansy-ass ACLUish tolerance of non-violent assholes and on the other…well…your points\*. ETA: \* That and selfishly they just sort of fucking annoy me. But that’s my own problem I guess. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/26 "2012-10-23T18:25:32Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Link? > > Link? > > Cite? The easiest example of this is “looming genetic crisis”. The SDMB is the 3rd result. As for example of the numerous threads this group has started: [One](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=669268) [Two](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653191) [Three](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=657074) [Four](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=484307) [Five](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=426027) [Six](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=644144) [Seven](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=608504) [Eight](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=602517) [Nine](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=572378) I only stopped there because I was tired of waiting to search, and skimming through threads. This post gives you an idea of what I am talking about wrt to constant regurgitation of discredited cites and nonsensical drivel: > [@Chen019, you are a liar.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chen019-you-are-a-liar/615246/14): > > [Have](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14850720&highlight=Risch#post14850720) [you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14850646&highlight=Risch#post14850646) [read](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14850006&highlight=Risch#post14850006) [Risch](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14849723&highlight=Risch#post14849723)? 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[Risch](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13838723&highlight=Risch#post13838723) [has](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13838912&highlight=Risch#post13838912) [asked](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13839043&highlight=Risch#post13839043) [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13839390&highlight=Risch#post13839390) [question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13839458&highlight=Risch#post13839458) [but](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12189764&highlight=Risch#post12189764) [you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12236674&highlight=Risch#post12236674) [will](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12378514&highlight=Risch#post12378514) [need](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12920766&highlight=Risch#post12920766) [to](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12920951&highlight=Risch#post12920951) [read](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12946515&highlight=Risch#post12946515) [his](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12956094&highlight=Risch#post12956094) [2002](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13621344&highlight=Risch#post13621344) [paper](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13625556&highlight=Risch#post13625556). [Are](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13629367&highlight=Risch#post13629367) [you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13645047&highlight=Risch#post13645047) [certain](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13647557&highlight=Risch#post13647557) [you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13648196&highlight=Risch#post13648196)’ [ve](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13651972&highlight=Risch#post13651972) [read](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13659230&highlight=Risch#post13659230) [Risch](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12176711&highlight=Risch#post12176711) [et](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12009101&highlight=Risch#post12009101) [al](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11912920&highlight=Risch#post11912920)?[!?!?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11909633&highlight=Risch#post11909633) > Anybody wanna do the same for his cite of Sesardic or Gil? My vote; bot. Here are a couple of pit threads discussing the same thing I am complaining about (see [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=602928), [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=644631), and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653465&highlight=omnibus)). Please don’t act as though I am imagining this. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/27 "2012-10-23T18:36:19Z")
Well, your Google Search indeed turns up “looming crisis in human genetics “ which indeed was the title of a Article in The Economist. So, how this is a “racist term” I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/28 "2012-10-23T18:45:07Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > The easiest example of this is “looming genetic crisis”. The SDMB is the 3rd result. Google says there are 318 total hits for that phrase (barely three pages with duplicates taken out. [It comes from this article in The Economist](http://www.economist.com/node/14742737?story_id=E1_TQSQNSPS&d=2010), and the SDMB appears in the search results because it was used several times in that thread - about half of them by people arguing _against_ the proposition, including the OP. ( **orcenio** started the thread and used the phrase three or four times including the thread title.) > [@](#): > > As for example of the numerous threads this group has started I think you’re defining that group differently than I would - and anyway you just linked to nine threads spread out over five years. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/29 "2012-10-23T18:46:10Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Oh please. So if you hadn’t signed up here, then these racist claims would go unanswered? Well thank god you showed up! > > Seriously, get the hell over yourself. If you cannot resist opening these threads, then the solution isn’t for us to not have the threads. The solution is for you to leave. I guess you have a reading comprehension problem, huh? I didn’t say I was the only one who bothered responding, nor did I imply that absent my response, the racist claims would go unanswered. My point was that I, and others, judging by the reduction in responses, are tired of refuting the same stuff over and over again. > [@Revtim](#): > > I’m not saying everybody should ignore them. Just people like the OP who lack the ability to understand that sometimes threads will exist that they don’t like. I think it’s clear that I understand that threads I don’t like will exist. My point is this allowing the same group of posters to post redundant threads in GD when they don’t intend to engage in honest debate, when others are not allowed to accurately characterize their behavior, and when their conduct reflects poorly on the board itself does not serve the interests of anyone here. Should I be able to post a weekly threads intimating the holocaust never happened? Should I be able to start “debates” about products I am selling, or post transparent advertisements I am paid to post? Of course not. I think the reason are obvious. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/30 "2012-10-23T18:49:59Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Google says there are 318 total hits for that phrase (barely three pages with duplicates taken out. [It comes from this article in The Economist](http://www.economist.com/node/14742737?story_id=E1_TQSQNSPS&d=2010), and the SDMB appears in the search results because it was used several times in that thread - about half of them by people arguing _against_ the proposition, including the OP. ( **orcenio** started the thread and used the phrase three or four times including the thread title.) Yes, the term itself isn’t racist, however, the thread is full of it. Fair distinction. > [@Marley23](#): > > I think you’re defining that group differently than I would - and anyway you just linked to nine threads spread out over five years. I should clarify. Not every thread I linked to was started by the people I am referencing, but they were all inspired by their comments elsewhere, or had them participating in the thread. Regardless, I know you pay a decent amount of attention to this stuff. Are you really saying that my characterization is that far off the mark? Again, read the pit threads. I am not the only one who has noticed it, nor am I the only one who has complained about it. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/31 "2012-10-23T18:53:01Z")
What any of you said about free speech is certainly true. I guess I just meant that in any free society we all have the right to speak our minds. We don’t get arrested or jailed for speaking our minds. So, even if we don’t like when people talk about racism, I hope we would agree that we have to let them have the right to talk and talk and talk … for ever and ever … talk talk talk. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/32 "2012-10-23T18:59:12Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > I should clarify. Not every thread I linked to was started by the people I am referencing, but they were all inspired by their comments elsewhere, or had them participating in the thread. So these are all threads they posted in. > [@](#): > > Are you really saying that my characterization is that far off the mark? I said a couple of times that I agree with the general thrust of what you’re saying. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/33 "2012-10-23T19:03:03Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > So these are all threads they posted in. I believe so, unless I linked to a thread by accident. As I said, I really don’t intent to spend my whole day proving something that should be transparently obvious to most regulars around here. Even if you are not as bothered by this as I am, I don’t think the existence and frequency of these arguments is in question. I don’t want to start naming names, but I think you know the core group I am speaking of. > [@Marley23](#): > > I said a couple of times that I agree with the general thrust of what you’re saying. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/34 "2012-10-23T19:03:30Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Emphasis added. > > Some forms of racial discrimination are illegal, if that is what you meant. > > Roddy Yes! Yes! That is what I meant. Throw me a rope, won’t you please? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/35 "2012-10-23T19:13:35Z")
So, several of us concede that certain posters are indeed getting more than a little tiresome over their choices of subjects for their new thread. OK, I can get behind TPtB asking “CP” to no longer open any threads about that subject. So asked. But I warn you, whenever TPtB do anything like that, there’s a shitstorm. But your second position that “When you Google some of the racist terms used in these OPs, the Straight Dope is often on the first page of results.” has pretty well been proven false. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/36 "2012-10-23T19:14:46Z")
> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#): > > What any of you said about free speech is certainly true. > > I guess I just meant that in any free society we all have the right to speak our minds. We don’t get arrested or jailed for speaking our minds. So, even if we don’t like when people talk about racism, I hope we would agree that we have to let them have the right to talk and talk and talk … for ever and ever … talk talk talk. Nobody is suggesting these people be jailed for being shitty human beings. The point is that you don’t have a RIGHT to say whatever you want whenever you want while on this message board. Clear lines have been drawn to curtail and limit speech for a variety of reasons. There is no question the mods have and will continue to do this. For example, you cannot say someone is a liar. Regardless of how you feel about that rule, it seems fairly arbitrary to say that is out of bounds but virulent racist remarks are okay. More directly, I don’t appreciate the hypocrisy of it all. Person X can start a thread saying Black people are inherently stupid on a regular basis, and say that not ONE Black person could get into an top-tier school based on scores alone. Yet, I cannot say that that person is a racist or that they are saying racist things without being warned by the mods. Apparently, dropping the R word stifles debate whereas implying the I, the person that you may be debating, is congenitally stupid/stupider because of my skin color is fair game. That’s the main thing that pisses me off. Even beyond having to step over each turd of a thread one of these assholes drops, I am annoyed that I get in trouble for making a defensible characterization based on their history and conduct. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/37 "2012-10-23T19:21:32Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Even if you are not as bothered by this as I am, I don’t think the existence and frequency of these arguments is in question. I’m not going to argue about what’s being said. I do think it’s worth noting that nine threads started since 2007 (or if you exclude that old one, maybe eight from the last three years) demonstrates a big problem. The more relevant issue is that this small group of posters is more or less immune to debate - which is basically true but not unique - and that what they’re saying is offensive to most other people, which is also true but usually isn’t grounds for banning. > [@DrDeth](#): > > OK, I can get behind TPtB asking “CP” to no longer open any threads about that subject. So asked. But I warn you, whenever TPtB do anything like that, there’s a shitstorm. Sometimes, but not always. The board in general does not have patience for one-trick ponies. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/38 "2012-10-23T19:24:51Z")
Ok, I assume you have an umbrella. :p“partly cloudy, chance of shit storms” .:eek: But I am really tired of CP’s “one trick”. Not even a good one. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/39 "2012-10-23T19:28:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But your second position that “When you Google some of the racist terms used in these OPs, the Straight Dope is often on the first page of results.” has pretty well been proven false. No it hasn’t. The reason why the SDMB is often on the google search page is because the thread topics are quoting racist literature. So, when you search for, “race differences in average IQ are largely genetic” or “IQ differences: Nature v Nurture”, or “looming genetic crisis”, you get the “academic” paper making the claim, then one of our proselytizer’s threads about it. If you took my comment to mean that when you google a racial invective the SDMB comes up, then maybe I wasn’t clear. The issue is that these guys find well known racialist literature then link to it in threads named after the title of the paper or book. That’s problematic in my mind not because “looming genetic crisis” is an inherently racist term; it’s because the people searching for that phrase are likely looking for racist material. When they google things like that, then see the SDMB, they might feel like those kinds of opinions are welcome here when they shouldn’t feel that way. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612/40 "2012-10-23T19:31:01Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > No it hasn’t. The reason why the SDMB is often on the google search page is because the thread topics are quoting racist literature. So, when you search for, “race differences in average IQ are largely genetic” or “IQ differences: Nature v Nurture”, or “looming genetic crisis”, you get the “academic” paper making the claim, then one of our proselytizer’s threads about it. If you took my comment to mean that when you google a racial invective the SDMB comes up, then maybe I wasn’t clear. The issue is that these guys find well known racialist literature then link to it in threads named after the title of the paper or book. That’s problematic in my mind not because “looming genetic crisis” is an inherently racist term; it’s because the people searching for that phrase are likely looking for racist material. When they google things like that, then see the SDMB, they might feel like those kinds of opinions are welcome here when they shouldn’t feel that way. _The Economist_ is a purveyor of racist literature? :dubious::rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-thinly-veiled-racist-threads-continually-allowed-in-gd/638612.md?page=3)