# "Why are you stalking me, man?" or stories of children with obsessed parents. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 17, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955 "2012-10-17T01:40:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/41 "2012-10-18T15:22:19Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Or women who shake hands are sluts, and men who shake women’s hands are rapists? And adopted children need to announce their adoptive status to everyone they come in contact with so they can be properly shunned? Or a man is allowed (practically commanded) to kill women who’ve gotten pregnant by him and refuse to have an abortion? > > There’s so much to choose from the poor Cliff Notes are going to read like a novel. That’s largely incorrect. It is my belief that any man who demands a woman shake his hand (or touch him in any other way unless it is medically necessary) has an entitlement problem which could be a sign that he is a potential rapist. I challenge anyone to claim that is irrational. Women who are overly eager to touch men shouldn’t be surprised if anyone thinks she’s sexual promisicous (people tend to believe what they advertise). In an ideal world adopted children would to need to announce their adoptive status because no one would lie that someone who didn’t give birth to them was their parent. I think it’s useful to know the true family relationships. And finally I think anyone is allowed to kill to defend their property including their money. Ideally we should have laws that allowed a man or woman who absolutely did not want a child to be born to relinquish their parental rights and the obligations to pay child support at birth. Until such laws are inacted, what pay tell is someone suppose to do to defend their family’s livelihood against a birth they did not concent to? Let me guess, you probably think the unwanted brat outranks all other generations and relatives. Talk about baby worship. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/42 "2012-10-18T15:25:56Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > That’s largely incorrect. It is my belief that any man who demands a woman shake his hand (or touch him in any other way unless it is medically necessary) has an entitlement problem which could be a sign that he is a potential rapist. I challenge anyone to claim that is irrational. I claim that is irrational. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/43 "2012-10-18T15:28:13Z")
OMG, is this crap for real? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/44 "2012-10-18T15:32:29Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I claim that is irrational. So do I. > [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > OMG, is this crap for real? Apparantly. She’s been singing the same toon for awhile now. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/45 "2012-10-18T15:40:41Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Or women who shake hands are sluts, and men who shake women’s hands are rapists? And adopted children need to announce their adoptive status to everyone they come in contact with so they can be properly shunned? Or a man is allowed (practically commanded) to kill women who’ve gotten pregnant by him and refuse to have an abortion? > > There’s so much to choose from the poor Cliff Notes are going to read like a novel. You forgot that she is a fortune teller and teaches young kids in her [del]cult[/del] family to pick pockets of those outside the culture. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/46 "2012-10-18T15:43:14Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Ideally we should have laws that allowed a man or woman who absolutely did not want a child to be born to relinquish their parental rights and the obligations to pay child support at birth. Until such laws are inacted, what pay tell is someone suppose to do to defend their family’s livelihood against a birth they did not concent to? Let me guess, you probably think the unwanted brat outranks all other generations and relatives. Talk about baby worship. Well, it’s your lucky day! We have such a law! It’s called ‘giving a baby up for adoption’! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dublin11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Dublin11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dublin11)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/47 "2012-10-18T15:54:04Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > No that would have been a childhood spent being abused by people who were only willing to care about me if I lied about my origins. I would have been one of those adopted children that became a serial killer because taking others lives was the only stimulation powerfull enough to allow me to feel something because my personality had been so abused and degraded in childhood. Aren’t I glad I asked. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/48 "2012-10-18T16:10:11Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I claim that is irrational. Me too! Me too! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/49 "2012-10-18T16:22:16Z")
I claim it is irrational, and so does my pet talking spaceship monkey spleen! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/50 "2012-10-18T16:37:25Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > If left in the care of our parents we would have either died or been dumped into the foster care system. So I’m sure you were told. And you know, maybe they were right. After all, if your folks were raised the same way as you were, then they probably had no idea how to be parents themselves. It’s a nice little cycle, always making sure that power is concentrated in the hands of the Elders. ---
**Author:** ![perfectparanoia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@perfectparanoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/perfectparanoia)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/51 "2012-10-18T16:40:51Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > No that would have been a childhood spent being abused by people who were only willing to care about me if I lied about my origins. I would have been one of those adopted children that became a serial killer because taking others lives was the only stimulation powerfull enough to allow me to feel something because my personality had been so abused and degraded in childhood. Yeah, my kids are ‘abused.’ Nifty. And they lie about their origins all the time. (That’s why all their friends know they are adopted.) They are totally going to be serial killers. You are seriously fucked up. You really should come visit our home sometime so you can see how my kids are. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/52 "2012-10-18T16:46:08Z")
> [@perfectparanoia](#): > > You are seriously fucked up. You really should come visit our home sometime so you can see how my kids are. You are incredibly brave. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/53 "2012-10-18T17:25:10Z")
> [@Filbert](#): > > Well, it’s your lucky day! We have such a law! It’s called ‘giving a baby up for adoption’! > 😃 That only works if both parents agree to it. There’s absolutely nothing outside of murder that a man can do to protect his assets. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/54 "2012-10-18T17:31:11Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > So I’m sure you were told. > > And you know, maybe they were right. After all, if your folks were raised the same way as you were, then they probably had no idea how to be parents themselves. It’s a nice little cycle, always making sure that power is concentrated in the hands of the Elders. That’s a very silly interpretation of an extended family. Elders may have more power on a individual level, but ultimately power comes down to group consensus. The reason my parents had no idea how to be parents is because they were trying to mimic your concept of a family (mother, father, children and no others) which doesn’t provide enough stability. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/55 "2012-10-18T17:35:33Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > That only works if both parents agree to it. There’s absolutely nothing outside of murder that a man can do to protect his assets. More classic cult thinking. Insiders are family. Outsiders - even if they happen to be your children - are threats, and anything that threatens the Family must eliminated. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/56 "2012-10-18T17:36:50Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > That only works if both parents agree to it. There’s absolutely nothing outside of murder that a man can do to protect his assets. If only he could have avoided an unwanted pregnancy by not shaking her hand in the first place! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/57 "2012-10-18T17:37:33Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > That’s a very silly interpretation of an extended family. Elders may have more power on a individual level, but ultimately power comes down to group consensus. The reason my parents had no idea how to be parents is because they were trying to mimic your concept of a family (mother, father, children and no others) which doesn’t provide enough stability. You know, for someone who claims that people don’t understand your culture, you have absolutely to understanding of and tolerance for other cultures. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/58 "2012-10-18T17:39:20Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > You forgot that she is a fortune teller and teaches young kids in her [del]cult[/del] family to pick pockets of those outside the culture. Actually, I would perfer they study law or become brokers. The haul is so much better. Seriously, when people aren’t allowed to work legimately, what are they to do to survive? Now the only reference I can remember involving encouraging children to pick pockets of those outside the culture occurred as using the practice as a just response to outsiders insulting a woman. Once again, what do you expect will happen when you provoke conflict? Apparently, in your mind people are just suppose to be abused and not fight back. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/59 "2012-10-18T17:43:10Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You know, for someone who claims that people don’t understand your culture, you have absolutely to understanding of and tolerance for other cultures. More garbage from someone who can’t think beyond the diaper pail. I understand your culture. I just think it’s digusting. But I am not trying destroy your families (from what I can see they self-destruct every generation anyway). Unlike you, I live and work and in a very multi-cultural world which I can navigate through without insulting most people (except for assholes that insist on imposing their culture on others). ---
**Author:** ![Dublin11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Dublin11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dublin11)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/60 "2012-10-18T17:45:54Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > That’s a very silly interpretation of an extended family. Elders may have more power on a individual level, but ultimately power comes down to group consensus. The reason my parents had no idea how to be parents is because they were trying to mimic your concept of a family (mother, father, children and no others) which doesn’t provide enough stability. What happens to people - like your parents - who go against the elders, in your culture? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955.md?page=4)