# "Why are you stalking me, man?" or stories of children with obsessed parents. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 17, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955 "2012-10-17T01:40:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/61 "2012-10-18T17:48:16Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Actually, I would perfer they study law or become brokers. The haul is so much better. Seriously, when people aren’t allowed to work legimately, what are they to do to survive? Now the only reference I can remember involving encouraging children to pick pockets of those outside the culture occurred as using the practice as a just response to outsiders insulting a woman. Once again, what do you expect will happen when you provoke conflict? Apparently, in your mind people are just suppose to be abused and not fight back. _Of course_ you don’t want them to be lawyers or brokers. Studying law means going to college, and then to law school, and then to a law firm. And every step of the way they’ll be expoosed to different cultures and different views of life, and more importantly, to different people that they’ll probably fall in love with. Hell, chances are that they’ll end up marrying some “outsider” and go live their own lives, and then the Family won’t see a penny of their haul. No, best to keep them close, and keep them ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/62 "2012-10-18T17:48:39Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Or women who shake hands are sluts, and men who shake women’s hands are rapists? And adopted children need to announce their adoptive status to everyone they come in contact with so they can be properly shunned? Or a man is allowed (practically commanded) to kill women who’ve gotten pregnant by him and refuse to have an abortion? > > There’s so much to choose from the poor Cliff Notes are going to read like a novel. > [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > You forgot that she is a fortune teller and teaches young kids in her [del]cult[/del] family to pick pockets of those outside the culture. Also, that childless white people hide in bushes to steal children from their parents. And that if two heterosexual teenagers have sex, the parents or guardians of the boy should file rape charges against the girl before her parents can do the same, because the girl’s parents will ALWAYS do so. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/63 "2012-10-18T17:51:04Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > More classic cult thinking. Insiders are family. Outsiders - even if they happen to be your children - are threats, and anything that threatens the Family must eliminated. Seriously, I think cult is just your way of trying to demonize any way of life different from your own. You want to know difference between a cult and a religion: tax exempt status. In a family unwanted children are threats and quite honestly anyone who would place their children ahead of their other relatives doesn’t understand the idea of family. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/64 "2012-10-18T17:51:46Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > And that if two heterosexual teenagers have sex, the parents or guardians of the boy should file rape charges against the girl before her parents can do the same, because the girl’s parents will ALWAYS do so. I can almost get behind this, I’ve seen it happen to a LOT of guys in Texas. They’d probably go ahead and charge both of the teens though, they love charging people. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/65 "2012-10-18T17:53:26Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Seriously, I think cult is just your way of trying to demonize any way of life different from your own. You want to know difference between a cult and a religion: tax exempt status. In a family unwanted children are threats and quite honestly anyone who would place their children ahead of their other relatives doesn’t understand the idea of family. You call every culture other than your own “disgusting”, and we’re demonizing YOU? ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/66 "2012-10-18T17:54:36Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > And that if two heterosexual teenagers have sex, the parents or guardians of the boy should file rape charges against the girl before her parents can do the same, because the girl’s parents will ALWAYS do so. In my nephew’s case informing the police of the situation first was the key to a much easier investigation by the police. I don’t know about you, but I would perfer my 16-year old nephew not being hostilily interrogated. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/67 "2012-10-18T17:57:00Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > In my nephew’s case informing the police of the situation first was the key to a much easier investigation by the police. I don’t know about you, but I would perfer my 16-year old nephew not being hostilily interrogated. [http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10329](http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10329) For those that don’t believe me Texas will arrest and charge both underage parties, being within three years in age of each other is an affirmative defense at trial but you have still been arrested and charged. And they will do, they consider all underage sex de facto illegal. The USA is messed up! ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/68 "2012-10-18T17:58:19Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You call every culture other than your own “disgusting”, and we’re demonizing YOU? I was referring specifically to your (Alessan) culture of baby worship and while I may think it’s disgusting, I am not trying outlaw it. You are perfectly free to believe babies are gods and value them before all other living beings. What you are not free to do is let this value system compromise the rights of others. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/69 "2012-10-18T18:02:14Z")
> [@grude](#): > > [http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10329](http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10329) > > For those that don’t believe me Texas will arrest and charge both underage parties, being within three years in age of each other is an affirmative defense at trial but you have still been arrested and charged. And they will do, they consider all underage sex de facto illegal. The USA is messed up! The nephew in question lived in Texas at the time, so you can imagine how concerned I was at the time (that and the fact that the girl sent him explicit messages on a cell phone owned by me). It was definitely CYA time. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/70 "2012-10-18T18:09:17Z")
The OP needs to do an “ask the Roma” thread… ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/71 "2012-10-18T18:13:48Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > The OP needs to do an “ask the Roma” thread… Which would be different than this one because…? ---
**Author:** ![3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3_20_59_or_bust)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/72 "2012-10-18T18:24:48Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > The OP needs to do an “ask the Roma” thread… No, the OP really doesn’t. There are plenty of ZPG train-wrecks already clogging up the pipes. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/73 "2012-10-18T18:29:19Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I was referring specifically to your (Alessan) culture of baby worship and while I may think it’s disgusting, I am not trying outlaw it. You are perfectly free to believe babies are gods and value them before all other living beings. What you are not free to do is let this value system compromise the rights of others. I really don’t understand this. Alessan I believe lives in Israel, so are we talking about the jews worshipping babies or Americans worshiping babies or some kind of weird amalgam? This particular American doesn’t even like babies. Anyways Jewish people don’t kidnap babies to raise them as their own. They kidnap babies and make them work for them on their holy day. 😃 (I kid, I kid.) ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/74 "2012-10-18T18:33:38Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I was referring specifically to your (Alessan) culture of baby worship and while I may think it’s disgusting, I am not trying outlaw it. You are perfectly free to believe babies are gods and value them before all other living beings. What you are not free to do is let this value system compromise the rights of others. Well, I guess it’s much easier to argue against a culture that you invented out of whole cloth just to argue against it. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/75 "2012-10-18T18:37:30Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > According to one of my aunts I could scream “Leave me the hell alone,” at my mother as young as four because I couldn’t stand having her hovering around. Tsk tsk. Screaming. Defying an adult. Being rebellious. You weren’t a child, you were a monster. Your caregivers tolerated this shocking and horrible behavior, probably subjecting you to the defilement of unconditional love and ruining you forever. Where was the discipline? Backtalk to an adult and no backhand to the face? Tsk. What is the world coming to when the opinions of a 4-year-old girl are worth something to anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/76 "2012-10-18T18:40:24Z")
It’s much more entertaining when you look at ZPG’s posts as parody. Although I guess they can be seen as offensive since they are so stereotypical. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/77 "2012-10-18T19:01:01Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Actually, I would perfer they study law or become brokers. The haul is so much better. Seriously, when people aren’t allowed to work legimately, what are they to do to survive? Wait, what? Who is preventing your children from working legitimately? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/78 "2012-10-18T19:06:32Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I really don’t understand this. Alessan I believe lives in Israel, so are we talking about the jews worshipping babies or Americans worshiping babies or some kind of weird amalgam? This particular American doesn’t even like babies. It doesn’t matter - Israelis might very well be the biggest “child-worshipers” in the world. It’s something we’re quite proud of, actually. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/79 "2012-10-18T19:09:50Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > This particular American doesn’t even like babies. They are definitely smelly and noisy. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955/80 "2012-10-18T19:10:07Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It’s much more entertaining when you look at ZPG’s posts as parody. Although I guess they can be seen as offensive since they are so stereotypical. I enjoy reading them aloud in the voice of [Eleanor Abernathy](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Eleanor_Abernathy). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-stalking-me-man-or-stories-of-children-with-obsessed-parents/637955.md?page=5)