# Why are you watching the Harris/ Trump debate?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\
**Created:** [September 10, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075 "2024-09-10T18:22:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/21 "2024-09-10T20:49:02Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I don’t think there anyone who cares what her stance on is for any issue. Sure, it’s better if I agreed with her on fracking, mortgage assistance and NATO, but she’s got my vote even if I disagree with her on a lot of things.

This.

I mean, come on! I’d vote for her over trump if she were in a coma. What the fuck difference does it make what her _policies_ are? Her main policy is that she’s **NOT** out to destroy the country and become a dictator. That’s good enough for me.

As for watching the debate: I’ll have it on, maybe with the captions on and the sound off. For as long as I can stand it. I generally hate these live events. Too nerve-wracking.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/22 "2024-09-10T20:51:05Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Hoping to see Trump completely lose his shit. (possibly literally)

This. And to hear him say things like “Kamabala”, “Blaaack”, “Gina”, “Hamberder”, “Sleepy Joe”, etc.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/23 "2024-09-10T20:55:23Z")

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I’m secretly (well not secretly, since I’m saying it here) that Kamala asks the Orange Fraudster a question that causes him to have a fit of apoplexy and expire on the spot.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/24 "2024-09-10T20:59:29Z")

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More like the fascist with an insane bizzaro world economic plan.

“I’m gonna put tarrifs on countries (which will increase inflation) and bring prices down (which is called deflation which is really, really bad)”

Basically Trump is promising he’s going to cause a massive recession.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/25 "2024-09-10T21:03:28Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I don’t think there anyone who cares what her stance on is for any issue. Sure, it’s better if I agreed with her on fracking, mortgage assistance and NATO, but she’s got my vote even if I disagree with her on a lot of things.

She’s not after your vote; she needs to convince those on the fence.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I thought she nailed it. Perfect content and tone.

She came across as “I was against it before I was for it.” It was apparent  
to almost everyone but you, apparently.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> On this we agree.

Well, of course.

> [@BigT](#):
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> In case you missed it, her website has released her policies now, ahead of the debate.

I’ve never been to her website, so yeah, I missed it. I would suspect that a lot of people missed it. But again, I don’t need to be convinced, but a lot of other people do.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/26 "2024-09-10T21:04:26Z")

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I don’t watch these live events because there’s nothing either can say that would change my mind. I don’t care who wins the debate; I’m not voting for president of the debate team, but for president of the country.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/27 "2024-09-10T21:04:33Z")

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I’m watching because I am one of those undecided individuals. I expect to learn a good deal about the policies of each candidate during the course of the debate and will vote for whoever elucidates best upon their vision for the future for America and how they will go about implementing those policies. Isn’t that what Presidential debates are all about?  
/s

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/28 "2024-09-10T21:07:03Z")

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> I’m watching because I am one of those undecided individuals.

I am astonished people are undecided at this point. It seems like not paying attention to what is happening.

But, it seems, there are many like this out there and they will likely be the difference on who wins in November.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/29 "2024-09-10T21:08:52Z")

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I heard one famous snark (paraphrasing) to be undecided in this election is like being offered a plate full of shit with broken glass mixed in it or chicken and then asking ‘how is the chicken prepared?’

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/30 "2024-09-10T21:09:06Z")

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I read transcripts the next day rather than watch. But last time I found out, the next day, that the first few minutes had changed history. So I will try it and see how far I get. If other family members start talking over the candidates, that will be the end for me.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/31 "2024-09-10T21:10:12Z")

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America does not want a debate, they want a MMA center ring showdown.Which sometimes has fake blood.  
Harris does not need to emphasis good policy and funding prospects-that she does on campaign trial:she needs to point out that Don does not and never had a grasp of the job.  
I try to see what makes that old man so appealing to so many that they are giddy. I wonder if he will stalk Kamala Harris around the stage just to show how tall he is. While she is defending women’s medical health and families he will be showing domestic abuse intimidation tactics.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/32 "2024-09-10T21:12:50Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Both of those; though I don’t know whether either of them will happen. That is, I may well think that Harris wipes the floor with him, but I don’t suppose that Trump voters will think so.

We just started watching Nicole Wallace, and she had a quote from an unnamed Trump staffer who said they were afraid Trump might lose control and say something crazy. And she said exactly what I was thinking: Who in the blue flocked hell would want to vote for someone for _president_ when you have strong suspicions that person might lose control???

> [@Cardigan](#):
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> I’m watching because I am one of those undecided individuals. I expect to learn a good deal about the policies of each candidate during the course of the debate

Damn! You had me going for a second.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/33 "2024-09-10T21:17:18Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Who in the blue flocked hell would want to vote for someone for _president_ when you have strong suspicions that person might lose control???

A person that hopes to cash in on a Trump regime. Trickle down grift, if you will.

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> [@Beesnest](#):
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> America does not want a debate, they want a MMA center ring showdown.Which sometimes has fake blood.

This is along the lines I was going to say. I doubt many “undecideds” will be watching tonight, and I suspect any that do will still be undecided tomorrow morning. How people are still undecided at this point is hard to fathom. But yea, America wants to see the whole “_Two candidates enter. One candidate leaves_” thunderdome thing, not a reasoned and well moderated debate where they are discussing issues and their approach to handling problems.

All anyone wants to see is the fireworks and gotchas and gaffs, and each side’s media will predictably seize on any mistake the other side made and declare their candidate “won”. These Presidential debates are no longer relevant, so I am not sure what the purpose is any more - maybe this will be the last one we ever see?

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/35 "2024-09-10T21:22:58Z")

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I doubt I will watch. _So much meaning and significance_ will be attributed to whatever happens during the snooze fest. People have mostly made up their minds about Trump. There will be no serious debate about party or policy. Pundits will talk for hours and hours, but you are unlikely to have learned anything you did not already know.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/36 "2024-09-10T21:24:03Z")

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You couldn’t possibly pay me enough to listen to Trump bloviate for an extended period of time. Also, even beyond the aggravating Trump factor all presidential debates suck, at all times, always.

I’ll read the post-mortem here and elsewhere and if there is a particularly interesting-sounding short clip, I might force myself to watch that. But the whole debate? I may be a (mild) political junkie, but to me watching an entire presidential debate featuring Trump would be like willingly licking the business end of a bullet ant.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-you-watching-the-harris-trump-debate/1007075/37 "2024-09-10T21:26:23Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I am astonished people are undecided at this point.

While I have made up my mind, I can totally see people (28 percent in one poll) saying they do not know what Harris stands for, and that they want to know. This is rational. Why have a presidential system if you do not focus on that?

I’m more concerned about what kind of people the president will appoint. I do not necessarily want a “conviction politician” who is going to try to push through an agenda for which getting the needed 60 U.S. Senate votes is an impossibility. So I’m watching the debate, at least as much of it as I can stomach, more because it is important for the future of NATO and world peace rather than because I want to learn about Harris’s dreams likely to crumble in Congress.

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> While I have made up my mind, I can totally see people (28 percent in one poll) saying they do not know what Harris stands for, and that they want to know. This is rational. Why have a presidential system if you do not focus on that?

Because Trump is so blatantly and colossally terrible. Provably so.

Maybe Harris is not the best but almost anything is better than Trump. Maybe Mitch McConnell would be worse. Maybe DeSantis. But it is not difficult to be better than Trump and Harris easily gets over that hurdle.

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Depends on if the Nats game goes extra innings or not.

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If Donnie keels over and dies in the middle of it, I don’t want to miss it.

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