# Why aren't MAGAs getting scared? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450 "2020-09-24T22:50:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/181 "2020-10-17T05:41:02Z")
Nice! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/182 "2020-10-17T11:48:50Z")
> [@Reginald\_Knutsen\_the\_3rd](#): > > Scared, no. They are terrified approaching feral, and above all they are dangerous You pretty well hit that one out of the park and into the next state! Damn fine post. You’ll do well here. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/183 "2020-10-17T12:36:56Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I’ve always been something of a centrist, but I’ll be damned if I vote for the Republican party in the short to moderate run, because I refuse to vote for anyone in a party that will not only tolerate, but endorse Trump’s lying, hostility, use of the office for personal enrichment, and general banana republic dictator shittiness, as well as for McConnell’s endorsement of Trump’s dictatorial crap, and total willingness to screw our system of government for short term political gain. So I guess that makes me a Democrat. I’ve been a libertarian all my life and come to the same conclusion. This comes as a big shock to those on this board who believe that Libertarians = Republican-lite. As soon as I got my ballot I marked every partisan office for the Democrat. The only reason it’s still sitting around is because there are a couple ballot questions I have to research, and a whole lot of judges – in Arizona we don’t vote them into their positions but do vote whether to retain them. I cannot see myself voting for any Republican come mid-term and I am dubious that I will ever again. They have dug themselves a hole that deep. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/184 "2020-10-17T14:02:06Z")
Amen. @Reginald_Knutsen_the_3rd … you ought to trim that a wee bit, as necessary, and ship it off to the major newspapers’ Op-Ed pages. Full marks for both style _and_ substance. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/185 "2020-10-17T15:21:53Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Bullshit. About half the gun owners in America are Democrats. Mind you, 90% of the gun nuts are GOPers- or worse. Yeah, I don’t call myself a Democrat (by the standards of Democrats on SDMB I’m way, way too far left on most issues) but I have voted nearly straight party Democrat for this entire millennium, and own close to two dozen guns. While the ‘gun nut’ crowd is really big into telling everyone how the GOP is a big friend of gun owners, that doesn’t seem to be borne out by the facts. The GOP likes to talk about being pro-gun, but fail to take any action even with control of the government and a willingness to act unilaterally on issues they do care about, while the Democrats like to talk about gun control but don’t actually implement any and occasionally help roll back anti-gun changes put in place by Republicans. If you look at federal gun legislation and executive orders you’ll see that Republicans are the ones who issued the two major anti-gun executive orders, the only big anti-gun legislation to pass since 1990 (Brady Bill and Assault Weapons ban) were endorsed by all Republican presidents except Trump, and the only pro-gun legislation for regular individuals in that time frame was passed by a Democratic congress under Obama. Here’s the thread where I go into detail: > [@Which Party is Better for Individual Gun Rights?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-is-better-for-individual-gun-rights/923133): > > I posted a bit in the thread about Romney, where it’s been buried, so I’ll ask the question here: Which party at the Federal level (and especially the Presidency) has a better record being pro-gun for ordinary individuals? I mention ‘ordinary individuals’ because I think that ordinary citizens are the focus of ‘gun control’ discussion, not agents of the state like retired LEOs or gun manufacturers. And please note that this isn’t intended to be a discussion about whether gun control in general … ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/186 "2020-10-18T00:13:42Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I survived eight years of Clinton just fine. And I can survive the three or four months of Biden that we’ll get, if he wins, just fine. I hope quoting a banned poster isn’t a bad thing to do, but I was curious about this and don’t think the poster ever gave an answer. But I recently heard this same basic thing from another who was deep into kool-aid. When asked, this was the response… Biden is being blackmailed by the Socialist wing in real control of the Dems. They have iron-clad proof to get Hunter executed for treason, so Joe Biden is being forced to run for president then step down almost immediately , leaving the Socialists in control. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/187 "2020-10-18T06:34:03Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Biden is being blackmailed by the Socialist wing in real control of the Dems. They have iron-clad proof to get Hunter executed for treason, so Joe Biden is being forced to run for president then step down almost immediately , leaving the Socialists in control. They’re missing an important detail there. When Joe is president, he can pardon Hunter. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/188 "2020-10-20T18:03:47Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Biden is being blackmailed by the Socialist wing in real control of the Dems. They have iron-clad proof to get Hunter executed for treason, so Joe Biden is being forced to run for president then step down almost immediately , leaving the Socialists in control. It makes my head hurt that someone could come up with a theory this divorced from reality. Aside from the weird idea that some nefarious ‘socialists’ are in charge of the Democrats rather than the big money and corporations who influence a lot more policy, how would they possibly have iron-clad proof to get Hunter executed for treason? There has literally only ever been one person executed for treason in the US, and that was under martial law during the civil war, not under the regular government operations, so the idea that they’ve got a guaranteed way to get Hunter into trial, get a conviction, and get an execution in a short time frame makes no sense. And even if they did, treason is a federal crime - President Joe could just pardon Hunter as soon as he takes office and derail the entire blackmail plan. It’s not that it’s untrue, it’s that it’s so blatantly at odds with anything resembling reality and that anyone would accept the absurdity that causes the headache. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/189 "2020-10-20T18:20:05Z")
As opposed to anything else that Qannon believers believe? If you can get someone to show up at a pizza shop to rescue the children being held captive in the basement, the idea that Hunter Biden is moments away from being executed for treason isn’t a stretch. These are not rational people that we are dealing with here. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/190 "2020-10-20T20:08:38Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > I drifted by a rightwing FB discussion and found that everyone there was convinced that because polls said Hillary Clinton would win but were wrong, that the exact same thing is going to happen this time. I mean absolutely convinced. That’s been my experience, too. “2016” has become some sort of a catch-all response to everything. It doesn’t matter if Biden is leading Trump by five percentage points or thirteen, “the polls were wrong before!” somehow covers every base and helps them dismiss everything right out of hand. They’re in for a rude surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/191 "2020-10-20T20:11:47Z")
Logically, I get it. But emotionally, I’m just too damaged. I’ll believe it when I actually see Biden elected. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/192 "2020-10-20T20:26:20Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > What a curious statement. It indicates a vivid fantasy life; I can only speculate about which fantasy is being entertained. As a moderator I am required to ask you to refrain from personal attacks, no matter how justified. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/193 "2020-10-20T20:35:50Z")
Apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/194 "2020-10-20T21:00:20Z")
Happily accepted. To get back to the OP, I am wondering if the MAGAs aren’t just convinced that the lamestream media are just lying and Trump is just way ahead. If he loses anyway, they will believe the election was stolen. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/195 "2020-10-20T21:23:03Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Logically, I get it. But emotionally, I’m just too damaged. I’ll believe it when I actually see Biden elected. Yep. Right now the 538 is telling me that of 100 identical universes, Biden wins in 87 of them. It does not tell me whether or not I’m in one of the 13 shitty universes. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/196 "2020-10-20T22:13:08Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Happily accepted. > > To get back to the OP, I am wondering if the MAGAs aren’t just convinced that the lamestream media are just lying and Trump is just way ahead. If he loses anyway, they will believe the election was stolen. That’s it exactly. And that’s why there will be violence. When real reality collides with fake reality something has to give, and give suddenly. It won’t be pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/197 "2020-10-20T22:14:59Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > To get back to the OP, I am wondering if the MAGAs aren’t just convinced that the lamestream media are just lying and Trump is just way ahead. If he loses anyway, they will believe the election was stolen. For sure there is. Visit the LSU Tigers Political message board. Many are convinced not only that the polls are lying, but that Trump will win in a _ **landslide** _. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/198 "2020-10-20T22:28:39Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Many are convinced not only that the polls are lying, but that Trump will win in a _ **landslide** _ . While FiveThirtyEight has Trump’s aggregated approval rating back on the downswing. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/199 "2020-10-20T23:24:39Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > > [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > > > To get back to the OP, I am wondering if the MAGAs aren’t just convinced that the lamestream media are just lying and Trump is just way ahead. If he loses anyway, they will believe the election was stolen. > > That’s it exactly. And that’s why there will be violence. Maybe. But I think there’s a pretty good chance that there won’t be much of it. Every once in a while one of these characters goes out and shoots somebody, expecting that to start off The War. And – so far, at least – it doesn’t. Because most even of those willing to do so aren’t going to be among the first few out the door shooting their neighbors; they’re waiting for not a handful, but a whole lot of other people, to start doing so first. And they’re often not expecting to have to shoot their neighbors, because they assume all their neighbors are on their side. Not saying we couldn’t get there; I’m not an ‘it can’t happen here’ fan. But I don’t think we’re there now. Sure hope Biden gets a landslide, though. Along with all the downballot races, which also matter. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/200 "2020-10-20T23:48:40Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > For sure there is. Visit the LSU Tigers Political message board. Many are convinced not only that the polls are lying, but that Trump will win in a _ **landslide** _ . From what I can gather they will call any Trump victory a landslide. He could win with the same numbers Bush got in 2000 and they would call it a landslide. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450.md?page=11)