# Why aren't MAGAs getting scared? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450 "2020-09-24T22:50:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/241 "2020-11-02T19:11:05Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Their perspective is wrong. The intolerants’ rights are not being reduced by someone else having the same rights as they. Everyone here agrees with you (as nearly as I can detect). I recommend you find the book on Amazon (where you can usually read an excerpt) and read the Introduction and a little of the first chapter. You will see the entire book supports the view we all share and explains how those intolerant believers have hijacked an entire political party and maintain power because they believe they are “called to keep America Christian”. At the very worst you can disagree with the premise and not read the book. In another thread (I think), **Mahaloth** , someone of faith I admire, recommended a book titled **The Power Worshipers** by: Katherine Stewart. I am reading it now and it shows how political power brokers are tricking church congregants into being their army of zombie mutants. They literally use the believers own fears and concerns to accomplish their agenda. Frightening stuff. I believe fifty or sixty years from now the right wing Christians will be seen as mindless creatures driven by a single ideology and their influence over America will be similar to the dark ages of Europe. (Let us hope _this_ religious influence over government does not last as long as the one during the medieval ages.) ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/242 "2020-11-02T20:39:33Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > The point of the book is that white Christians have been the agenda setters for so long, and it is so natural to them, that when they don’t get to make all the rules for everyone they feel like they are under attack. There are a number of people who think there is only one right way to live. For such people, saying that anything other than the way they are living is a right way to live translates to an active attack upon their own way of life: because, if you think there’s only one right way to live, then if some other way of living is right, your own way must be wrong. This can apply to all sorts of things, some of them quite minor. I once, years ago, had somebody get furious at me because I said I didn’t much like country music\*. They interpreted that as my having said that there was something essentially wrong with it and that they shouldn’t like it, either; which wasn’t remotely what I meant. \*I like some of it now. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/251 "2020-11-02T21:08:50Z")
MAGAts understand message discipline intuitively. It comes from growing up in evangelical churches and whatnot. They understand that sometimes speaking a thing loudly enough, to enough people, makes it come true. If the party line is that we’re winning and we have no reason to fear, that’s what you profess, no matter your doubts, and you do not speak of your misgivings. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/259 "2020-11-02T21:16:22Z")
FYI, I just deleted a bunch of troll/sock posts and replies to them. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/260 "2020-11-02T21:18:53Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Many are convinced not only that the polls are lying, but that Trump will win in a _ **landslide** _ . It is not at all uncommon for Trumpists to claim Trump will win states like California or New York, their rationale being that they went to a Trump event and lots of people there were voting for Trump. The preceding paragraph is one hundred percent serious. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/261 "2020-11-02T21:20:41Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The preceding paragraph is one hundred percent serious. When we have threads like this… > [@Trump Crowds vs Biden Crowds](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/): > > Today CNN has a ‘Campaign in Pictures’ story which highlights the huge disparity in crowd sizes between Biden and Trump: The right wing Twitter folks have been posting things like this for a while - Trump driving down streets lined with people and appearing at events with thousands, while Biden and Harris were speaking to crowds generally measured in dozens of people. I think one Harris event had 7 people show up. But of course, it’s easy to take selective photos from certain angles to bui… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/262 "2020-11-03T00:42:38Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Why were they so opposed to Obama who be all accounts was a centrist? Because for them there is no center and anyone not in the religious-right is a leftist commie liberal. So they honestly believe they are saving the country from evil Socialism. Word. Of the mob of pro-Trump idiots on that have been showing up on a street corner near my house for the past three weeks, numerous among them carry signs saying “Biden = Communist”. Well, no, actually you clearly have no idea what the term “Communist” even means. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/263 "2020-11-03T09:12:51Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > I believe fifty or sixty years from now the right wing Christians will be seen as mindless creatures driven by a single ideology and their influence over America will be similar to the dark ages of Europe. We may look down on the Morlocks, but never forget they _ate_ the Eloi. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/264 "2020-11-03T15:08:18Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Of the mob of pro-Trump idiots on that have been showing up on a street corner near my house for the past three weeks, numerous among them carry signs saying “Biden = Communist”. Well, no, actually you clearly have no idea what the term “Communist” even means. Especially delicious when “Trump = Russian Stooge” is so much closer to the truth. Hell of a note for the US to bloodlessly win the Cold War then hand victory to the enemy’s successor government a mere 30-ish years later. Doubly delicious irony that it’s the “patriots” doing the handing over. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/265 "2020-11-03T15:51:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > We may look down on the Morlocks, but never forget they _ate_ the Eloi. I don’t get the reference (sounds like science fiction outside my experience) but I guess I am being made fun of for stating the obvious. I am used to that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/266 "2020-11-03T15:56:28Z")
The Time Machine, by H.G. Wells (1895), film (1960). In the way distant future, after the world has been devastated by nuclear war, humans split into two species: The Morlocks, who lived underground and ran the machinery of production, and the Eloi, who lived above ground and lived off of the largess of the Morlocks. The Eloi were incurious and docile. In essence, they were ‘cattle’ for the Morlocks, and the Morlocks ate them. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/267 "2020-11-03T16:07:58Z")
Of course, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/268 "2020-11-03T17:10:12Z")
I’m not mocking you - if anything, I’m agreeing with you. I’m just adding that “mindless creatures” shouldn’t be underestimated and are often extremely dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/269 "2020-11-03T17:28:56Z")
I was sure it was nothing more than good natured ribbing, and with my woeful ignorance of any sci fi beyond _Lucifer’s Hammer_, a little mocking might be in order. Once **Johnny\_L.A** pointed out the source I realized that I knew the reference from it being being adopted into so much pop culture (_The Big Bang Theory_ for one) even though I have never read the original. But to your point, I hope tonight’s election signals the end of America’s dark ages where the often pious, but less informed can negatively impact society as much as they have been impacting it recently. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/270 "2020-11-03T18:14:33Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Hell of a note for the US to bloodlessly win the Cold War then hand victory to the enemy’s successor government a mere 30-ish years later. Doubly delicious irony that it’s the “patriots” doing the handing over. > [@V.I. Lenin](#): > > When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract. True, Russia is no longer Soviet, but the Brits were playing [The Great Game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game) with the Russian Empire long before we came upon the scene. > [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m not mocking you - if anything, I’m agreeing with you. I’m just adding that “mindless creatures” shouldn’t be underestimated and are often extremely dangerous. Now I’m picturing a zombie survival game. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/271 "2020-11-04T00:46:01Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > But to your point, I hope tonight’s election signals the end of America’s dark ages where the often pious, but less informed can negatively impact society as much as they have been impacting it recently. It won’t though. Even if Biden wins they aren’t going anywhere and will be there to vote for Tom Cotton for president in 2024 or 2028 ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/272 "2020-11-04T01:24:44Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > It won’t though. Even if Biden wins they aren’t going anywhere and will be there to vote for Tom Cotton for president in 2024 or 2028 Not necessarily. Some of them yes, for reasons beyond understanding some people love Trump and whomever replaces him. But I believe a lot of Republicans will drop Trump and blame everything on him if he loses. Especially if he loses big. I was one of them not so long ago and except for the dipshits who love to wear camo, deck their trucks out with flags, and bring guns to polling places – many of us will never go back. The odd thing is no Democrat could get me to move left, but Trump and his type has pushed me way, way to the left of them. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/273 "2020-11-04T12:13:03Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > The odd thing is no Democrat could get me to move left, but Trump and his type has pushed me way, way to the left of them A very common refrain from many Rs over the last 25-ish years. > I didn’t leave the Party; the Party left me. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/274 "2020-11-04T12:42:41Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I didn’t leave the Party; the Party left me. I’m one of them. Though as the Republicans moved steadily to the right, I moved to the left in many ways or was disillusioned in other ways. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/275 "2020-11-09T19:06:53Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > A very common refrain from many Rs over the last 25-ish years. > > > I didn’t leave the Party; the Party left me. Which in turn, ironically, was what _Reagan_ said of the Democrats when he announced he was entering active GOP politics on the 60s. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450.md?page=14)