# Why aren't MAGAs getting scared? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450 "2020-09-24T22:50:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/121 "2020-10-07T18:34:24Z")
I want him to say it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/122 "2020-10-07T18:42:44Z")
Yes, and I have a perfect example. On a hill here someone used to fly an American flag. Now, someone took that down and are flying a trump flag. Trump before America. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/123 "2020-10-07T19:45:33Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > Watch Biden deal with the ever growing influence of the left wing of the democratic party. Some of us here actually are leftists and would see this as a _good_ thing. You are aware of that, yes? > [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I survived eight years of Obama just fine. I survived eight years of Clinton just fine. I _prospered_ under Clinton and Obama. Give me more! Give me more! > [@Skywatcher](#): > > Somewhere, Richard Nixon is yelling, “How in the hell is that bastard getting away with so much when I couldn’t get away with a simple break-in?” These days, Nixon would be considered a leftist, that’s how far right the country has moved. Don’t believe me? - Nixon signed the legislation creating the Environmental Protection Agency, you know, the one requiring those “environmental impact statements” so many of today’s Republicans get the vapors over. - Clean Air Act of 1970 - Creation of OSHA - An early form of Medicaid/Medicare for all - Presided over the integration of schools - First Federal Affirmative Action program (1970 “Philadelphia Plan”) - Supported the Equal Rights Amendment from 1968 onward If the dumbfuck hadn’t engaged in illegal shenanigans we might be a more progressive and civilized country at this point. Damn you, Nixon! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/124 "2020-10-08T20:44:19Z")
Good one! I’ve often thought that, myself. ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/125 "2020-10-08T20:54:01Z")
I remember after 8 years of anti Bush hysteria when Obama was elected how liberals were ecstatic. One thing was they promised to hold Obama accountable. But suddenly on my discussion board they quietly disappeared. So the better question is how will liberals handle dealing with Biden? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/126 "2020-10-08T20:57:57Z")
What did you want Obama held accountable for? Reducing the national debt? Getting tens of millions of people covered by health insurance? What? And when will YOUR side hold the nutballs intent of kidnapping the governor of Michigan accountable? Waiting… _::: crickets ::::_ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/127 "2020-10-08T21:02:47Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > And when will YOUR side hold the nutballs intent of kidnapping the governor of Michigan accountable? Not to mention planning to throw Molotov cocktails at police and bomb a bridge to slow police response. > **[Militia group plotted to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, feds say](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot-militia/5921409002/)** > > Charges have been filed in the U.S. District Court in the western district of Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/128 "2020-10-08T21:03:50Z")
I like how the observation that he ignored intelligence about a terrorist attack that killed thousands of our civilians, then lied us into war, tortured prisoners, got thousands of US troops killed and tens of thousands wounded, along with an unknown number that no one bothered to care to count of civilians of the countries that we invaded, completely dropped the ball on responding to a hurricane that devastated one of our major cities, then caused the greatest recession since the great depression is “anti-Bush hysteria”. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/129 "2020-10-08T21:07:18Z")
What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea what you are trying to convey. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/130 "2020-10-09T09:17:00Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > What did you want Obama held accountable for? Reducing the national debt? Getting tens of millions of people covered by health insurance? What? Wearing a tan suit, eating French mustard, and doing “terrorist fist bumps”. Obama took a lot of flack from the left on some things, particularly his drone strikes. But the few real issues were far overshadowed under the constant stream of manufactured hysteria by Republicans and their pet media, which is why **urbanredneck2** probably didn’t notice them. However, his lack of awareness of left-wing criticism of Obama doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. Now as far as silence goes, what happened to the people who complained about government spending under Obama, the ones who talked about how much he golfed, the ones who spent years talking about the withholding of subpoenaed documents, who thought the deaths of four Americans was too many, who said that the use of executive orders to avoid congressional scrutiny was tyrannical, who argued that any sign of coordination between a president and his AG during an impeachment hearing indicated that corruption was occurring? They’ve gone very, very quiet too. So I guess we don’t need to ask how they’ll “handle” another four years of Trump. They’ll apparently be fine with whatever he does. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/131 "2020-10-09T15:22:41Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > So, you’re a “just world” fan? The problem is that we - none of us - control everything in our lives. We are all subject to luck, both good _and bad_ . > > You assume that everyone who needs help somehow “deserves” to be in that state, you’re blaming the victim. I find your lack of empathy and compassion absolutely deplorable. From another thread, something that I too have thought when thinking about how many MAGAs generally feel about things: > [@Plot to kidnap (MI Gov) Gretchen Whitmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-to-kidnap-mi-gov-gretchen-whitmer/922506/68): > > “If you wish a difficult life on others because ‘ _you_ had a difficult life and _you_ turned out okay …’ then you really _didn’t_ turn out okay.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/132 "2020-10-09T15:33:23Z")
Or, as I have said: There are two reactions to encountering adversity and hardship. The first is to do what you can to help others to not have to go through what you had to go through. The second is to do what you can to ensure that others have to go through what you had to go through. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/133 "2020-10-09T15:33:42Z")
> [@Plot to kidnap (MI Gov) Gretchen Whitmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-to-kidnap-mi-gov-gretchen-whitmer/922506/68): > > “If you wish a difficult life on others because ‘ _you_ had a difficult life and _you_ turned out okay …’ then you really _didn’t_ turn out okay.” Stealing. ---
**Author:** ![BrickBat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@BrickBat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrickBat)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/134 "2020-10-09T17:45:49Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Wearing a tan suit, eating French mustard, and doing “terrorist fist bumps”. You left out the worst of all. Drinking a ‘Blue Moon’ beer instead of a Miller ‘Lite’. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/135 "2020-10-10T17:21:30Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > And I can survive the three or four months of Biden that we’ll get, if he wins, just fine. Because, unlike liberals, we conservatives DO NOT rely on government for survival. Actually, you do. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/136 "2020-10-10T17:41:14Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > … the three or four months of Biden that we’ll get, if he wins, … Underlining mine. I’m confused / concerned about the underlined part. If Biden wins, what happens 3 or 4 months later that changes that? He’s (probably) not gonna drop dead. The new Congress will be settled for the next 23-1/2 months after Biden is inaugurated, so that’s not a source of change. Or are you suggesting that Biden wins in early Nov but that Trump somehow contrives to prevent the inauguration and therefore the country celebrates Biden-as-president-elect for about 3 months before the Dictator-for-Life hammer comes down? Or perhaps that some criminal devoutly anti-American terrorist group like the Michigan Militia will assassinate Biden as they just tried to do to Governor Whitmer? I can’t come up with any benign interpretations of your opinion here. Care to elaborate and prove me a pearl-clutcher? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/137 "2020-10-10T17:48:00Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If Biden wins, what happens 3 or 4 months later that changes that? Apparently, Biden is cover for the secwet pwan to install Kamala Harris as president. I will leave Tim to elaborate on why that’s (a) plausible and (b) bad. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/138 "2020-10-11T00:23:49Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Somehow I have managed to avoid that air of smug superiority. It is to laugh. Well, we won’t have to read your posts any more. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/139 "2020-10-11T03:35:45Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I’m confused / concerned about the underlined part. There is a ongoing narrative among the right wing that Harris will stage a coup to overthrow Biden once they are in office so she can turn America into a communist country. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450/140 "2020-10-11T04:57:34Z")
_Because, unlike liberals, we conservatives DO NOT rely on government for survival._ Nope. Check out what states get the most government aid. They are deep Red. [Opinion: States that voted for Trump depend the most on ‘big government’ - MarketWatch](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/states-that-voted-for-trump-depend-the-most-on-big-government-2019-06-19) States that voted for Trump depend the most on ‘big government’ \*One of the worst offenders is Mitch McConnell’s home state of Kentucky, according to this WalletHub study \* _Hey, isn’t it time all these so-called “conservatives” down in the red states actually started standing on their own two feet?_ _We’re not trying to be mean. But, you know: Tough love._ _A new[report](https://wallethub.com/edu/most-independent-states/36426/#main-findings) from WalletHub confirms what we already suspected: The states that depend the most on “big gubmin”t are also the states that are are always whining the most about… “big gubmint.”_ _And, wouldn’t you know it, one of the worst offenders is Kentucky — the state represented in the Senate by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican._ … _Kentucky ranks fifth in terms of overall dependence on government, WalletHub determined using data on federal spending in each state, the share of households on welfare, the number of government workers and the total tax burden as a share of income… No. 1 was Mississippi — no surprises there — followed by Alaska._ _Conservative “red” states of the south and west make up eight of the 10 states with the highest dependency on government, and 19 of the top 25._ … _Yes, isn’t it time to roll back government spending? You show us the way, West Virginia (the fourth-most dependent). And you, Arizona (No. 8) and South Carolina (No. 9)._ _Let’s crack down on all those “Cadillac queens.” Except it turns out the real offenders are the “Pickup princes” in the South and West._ So, sorry, conservatives depend heavily on the Government for survival- and then bitch and moan about it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-magas-getting-scared/921450.md?page=8)