# Why Australian women make bad wives, and only Russian women are suitable **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 4, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915 "2005-03-04T16:41:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/1 "2005-03-04T16:41:38Z")
[Linkety](http://www.womenrussia.com/austwives.htm) Wow. Just. Wow. I didn’t realize what stuck up, mean bitches all women from Australia were. How nice that Russian women seemingly love to be subjugated, insulted, cheated on and slapped. Some more pearls of wisdom: > [@](#): > > If you don’t spend time thinking, how will you generate the fresh insights that will make you interesting to listen to? Brilliant. > [@](#): > > A good wife will: > > ``` > * Remember the good times in her marriage before complaining about the bad times. > * Remember her husband's strengths not just stare at his weaknesses. > * Celebrate his masculinity, not criticize his lack of feminine virtues. > * Ask herself, "Is this weakness so important? Can I shrug it off?" > * Ask herself whether there is anything nice she can do for her husband that could alter his behavior. > * Be more concerned with improving herself than with improving him. > > ``` Amen. Yes, I am being sarcastic to those who might flame me. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/2 "2005-03-04T17:00:26Z")
I want a Tatyana, Ludmila, and an Elena. I need help with my river bottom, gold mining, operation. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/3 "2005-03-04T17:19:18Z")
Since I’m no longer engaged, I’m ‘on the market’. I’d be happy to have an Australian wife. Applications now being accepted. ---
**Author:** ![Cynical\_Optimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Cynical\_Optimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cynical_Optimist)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/4 "2005-03-04T17:37:40Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > I want a Tatyana, Ludmila, and an Elena. > I need help with my river bottom, gold mining, operation. No beekeeping? Even if you nickname her “Honey”? ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/5 "2005-03-04T17:45:48Z")
I can’t muster up the motivation to follow your link, but the pieces of advice you copied into your post actually sound very, very reasonable and wise. ---
**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/6 "2005-03-04T20:21:03Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > I can’t muster up the motivation to follow your link Well, you should. Because I thought the same thing you did about the excerpted list. However, most of the things the guy says are just disgusting. Consider the following: > [@Phil Bachmann](#): > > Aussie women: “I have certain expectations” > Better: “I am happy to lower my expectations as required” Which he follows up with: > [@](#): > > An important part of being a good wife is constantly managing your expectations so that they are below what your husband is likely to deliver. Then you can be happy that your husband is always “Above expectations.” Ew. Is he honestly suggesting that whatever the husband does, the wife should “manage her expectations” so that she expects just a little bit less? And then we have: > [@](#): > > “There are some things no woman should put up with” > Better: “Take the bad with the good” followed by > [@](#): > > No woman likes to be smacked, yelled at, cheated on, or neglected. How many women want to be married to a man who doesn’t make much money or drinks too much? > > But a marriage of any length is going to involve both parties getting some of what they don’t want, so what to do? This seems to imply that the four things there that “no woman likes” are possibly things that simply fall into the category of “getting some of what they don’t want”. The guy’s a troglodyte. Plain and simple. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/7 "2005-03-04T20:40:25Z")
“Day Vear!” “Evening Vear!” “Svim Vear!” ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/8 "2005-03-04T22:45:47Z")
> [@CynicalGabe](#): > > - Remember the good times in her marriage before complaining about the bad times. > - Remember her husband’s strengths not just stare at his weaknesses. > - Celebrate his masculinity, not criticize his lack of feminine virtues. > - Ask herself, “Is this weakness so important? Can I shrug it off?” > - Ask herself whether there is anything nice she can do for her husband that could alter his behavior. > - Be more concerned with improving herself than with improving him. How exactly are these bad things? ---
**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/9 "2005-03-04T23:07:13Z")
> [@Abbie Carmichael](#): > > How exactly are these bad things? Well, that fifth one is iffy. She’s not responsible for his behavior, he is. Other than that, read the whole linked article. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/10 "2005-03-04T23:11:34Z")
I think [this image](http://www.cyburbia.org/tmp/american_girls_suck.jpg) (safe for work) describes that attitude perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/11 "2005-03-04T23:11:55Z")
Did you read the link, **Abbie Carmichael**? Phil Bachman doesn’t want a partnership of equals; he wants to be worshipped and adored by a Stepford wife. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/12 "2005-03-04T23:18:31Z")
Some Australian [women]([www.pittsburghlive.com/](http://www.pittsburghlive.com/). …/s\_158917.html) would make very bad wives 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/13 "2005-03-04T23:20:33Z")
> [@Bippy the Beardless](#): > > Some Australian [women]([www.pittsburghlive.com/](http://www.pittsburghlive.com/). …/s\_158917.html) would make very bad wives 😉 Darn broken link try this [http://www.celebrity8x10s.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store\_Code=SCP&Category\_Code=everage](http://www.celebrity8x10s.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=SCP&Category_Code=everage) ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/14 "2005-03-04T23:35:43Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > I think [this image](http://www.cyburbia.org/tmp/american_girls_suck.jpg) (safe for work) describes that attitude perfectly. Y’know you’re right. Certainly in the case of whoever wrote that article you are right. _BUT_ sometimes that sort of attitude does more harm than good. My wife is Asian, and it annoys me when people just assume “sex-for-citizenship” look at me like I must have bought her out of a mail order catalogue, and by extension that I must be some sort of loser who spends all day and night paying with toy soldiers and yelling at my wife to bring me more doughnuts. In actual fact, my wife was already an Australian citizen when we first went out together. She’s smart, liberated, and confident, and could probably kick my arse at most things. And she made the first move. Eh, just sayin’, is all. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/15 "2005-03-05T06:44:20Z")
It strikes me that any man who buys a mail order bride is BEGGING to be disappointed- bEcause he’s assuming the women he gets will be docile, servile, unambitious, undemanding, and willing to accept whatever her husband cares to give her. But really, if a Russian woman were content to live in squalor with a drunken abusive husband, well, she could have THAT back in Russia! If she wants to get out of Russia and get to Australia (or England or America or wherever), that means she has ambitions and desires of her own, for a better life. Which implies she’s NOT going to be the doormat her new “lord and master” hopes she’ll be! ---
**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/16 "2005-03-05T06:57:01Z")
Here’s one that’s a little more subtle: > [@](#): > > “The relationship between a husband and wife should be equal” > Better: “The relationship between a husband and wife should be balanced” > > Equality means “the same”, and no two people are the same. No-one would think it was right to treat a dog and a donkey equally. > > Balance means ensuring that individuals are given privileges in accordance with their responsibilities, abilities and past contributions. Translation: the man is the boss. He makes the money (or more money), so he contributes more. He has more responsibility because he has the job. He’s better at most things than the wife because he is more worldly-wise. Therefore, the man should get his way 99% of the time. He’s thinking, “Women are the donkeys! They’re dumb and they need to be led around!” But he’s half right–he _is_ a dog. ---
**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/17 "2005-03-05T07:01:35Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > If she wants to get out of Russia and get to Australia (or England or America or wherever), that means she has ambitions and desires of her own, for a better life. Which implies she’s NOT going to be the doormat her new “lord and master” hopes she’ll be! My good friend’s dad’s cousin has had four mail-order brides. As soon as they become citizens, or meet whatever immigration criteria they need to meet to stay here, they hit the road. He keeps trying out different “flavors,” ordering brides from all different countries, looking for one that will be properly meek and subservient. My friend and her dad say they’re all quite shrewd about it. They let the husband (a buffoon) think he’s getting his way all the time, and trick him into thinking it’s True Love, and then, one day, the INS gives the green light and she vanishes into the ether, usually with a chunk of his money. ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_From\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Girl\_From\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_From_Mars)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/18 "2005-03-05T07:27:02Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > Since I’m no longer engaged, I’m ‘on the market’. I’d be happy to have an Australian wife. Applications now being accepted. G’day there handsome… (Always wanted me a Greencard…) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/19 "2005-03-05T08:03:59Z")
So, what’s the deal with these women anyway (slight hijack here). Who are they? Why are they willing to leave home/friends/family for random husbands overseas. Russia et al are certainly not horrible places to be. What gives? ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915/20 "2005-03-05T09:50:08Z")
There’s a charming story about a Russian woman who met an Aussie guy with a house full of bugs and bad aftershave, she made a joke and saved the relationship. Hello? The guy can’t keep his house clean and smells awful. Those would be warning signs in anyone’s book. The site also suggests that a woman should put her husband as a higher priority than her kids. Oki doki, the needs of an independent, adult human should come before the needs of dependent children. Yup, that makes sense. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-australian-women-make-bad-wives-and-only-russian-women-are-suitable/292915.md?page=2)