# Why can't we have the good Rolleyes back? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 20, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754 "2018-04-20T04:31:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/41 "2018-04-23T19:41:59Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > But will that toy with my emotions by showing the one I want to me while showing the lame one to everybody who views it? Yes, it will fork a copy of reality and show you what you want to see instead of what the rest of the world experiences. From the safety of your bubble you will further entrench your own views and reinforce your own prejudices until you finally lose the ability to cope with the outside world as it is and emerge, Krikkit-like, to destroy everything that doesn’t fit into your worldview. Just like what happens to you on Facebook or other social media. But reality is overrated anyway. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/42 "2018-04-23T19:56:35Z")
Who needs reality? ❤ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/43 "2018-04-23T22:07:42Z")
> [@Mtgman](#): > > Yes, it will fork a copy of reality and show you what you want to see instead of what the rest of the world experiences. From the safety of your bubble you will further entrench your own views and reinforce your own prejudices until you finally lose the ability to cope with the outside world as it is and emerge, Krikkit-like, to destroy everything that doesn’t fit into your worldview. Just like what happens to you on Facebook or other social media. Oh hell, I’m there already. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/44 "2018-04-23T23:42:51Z")
Fork reality. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/45 "2018-04-24T00:02:06Z")
For those that don’t remember them, the [old emoticons](http://mazeguy.net/basic.html), except for “:smack:”, which I believe is our custom one. There was better color variations before. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/46 "2018-04-24T00:14:16Z")
In Putin’s Russia, reality fork YOU! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/47 "2018-04-24T00:26:50Z")
Heck, FWIW I still miss the Happy Hassid smiley after all these years and I’m not even the right ethnicity… ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/48 "2018-04-24T00:55:55Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Heck, FWIW I still miss the Happy Hassid smiley after all these years and I’m not even the right ethnicity… I miss the “putz” winking smiley. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/49 "2018-04-24T01:17:38Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Heck, FWIW I still miss the Happy Hassid smiley after all these years and I’m not even the right ethnicity… I’m Jewish and I liked it, but it offended another Jewish guy, so I must sadly agree in doing away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/50 "2018-04-24T02:13:45Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > You left out andy. I don’t know what that is a reference to, but I can also role my r’s. rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrricola ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/51 "2018-04-24T05:01:29Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > For those that don’t remember them, the [old emoticons](http://mazeguy.net/basic.html), except for “:smack:”, which I believe is our custom one. There was better color variations before. :dubious: is also custom ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/52 "2018-04-24T15:59:10Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > how do you do that? Cut-and-paste is easiest if you have a source. If not, type in the desired Unicode in decimal, per the following examples. On the left of each line are the seven (or 8) required characters with a space after the initial ‘&’. On the right are the same seven (or 8) characters but without the space. & #9748; ☂ & #9749; ☕ & #9973; ⛵ & #9981; ⛽ & #8473; ℙ & #8492; ℬ & #8859; ⊛ & #10048; ❀ & #10057; ❉ The first four (colored!) Unicode characters above seem so nifty you may expect there are lots more, but I think there are only a few. (The 12 Zodiac signs are available with different colors for fire, earth, air and water signs. These are 9800-9811 if you want them.) The hollow P and the script B seem useful … until you realize that neither style supports \*all \*26 letters. 😕 There are dozens of nifty shapes like the last three in the list above. Of course these are all dependent on your browser having the right font support. _ **@ Everyone — Please tell me whether your device displays the nine icons above.** _ If you see such a Unicode character displayed and want to “reverse-engineer” its code (e.g. derive 9749 from ☕) it’s possible, but the way I know is very tedious. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/53 "2018-04-24T16:10:36Z")
I see: Rainy purple umbrella Coffee cup Sailboat with orange sails Red gasoline pump Paragraph sign Script B Star inside a circle Five-petaled flower Eight-lobed bullet point Latest version of Firefox, Mac OSX High Sierra ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/54 "2018-04-24T16:27:19Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > … > Sailboat with orange sails I see _sky-blue_ colored sails. ☹ (You didn’t mention coffee cup color. Is it light brown?) I use Chrome on Windoze 10, but also see the blue color with Firefox. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/55 "2018-04-24T16:35:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I see: > Rainy purple umbrella > Coffee cup > Sailboat with orange sails > Red gasoline pump > Paragraph sign > Script B > Star inside a circle > Five-petaled flower > Eight-lobed bullet point > > Latest version of Firefox, Mac OSX High Sierra Same here with Firefox 59.0.2 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/56 "2018-04-24T17:33:16Z")
I see all of them. But I’m on Windows 10 with Chrome and see the orange sails. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/57 "2018-04-24T17:47:20Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I see all of them. But I’m on Windows 10 with Chrome and see the orange sails. Maybe it’s a sunset. Are the sails not supposed to be orange? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/58 "2018-04-25T01:30:28Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Maybe it’s a sunset. Are the sails not supposed to be orange? Nope, they’re supposed to be [red](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwid1Maqo9TaAhWwUt8KHRaWCjgQtwIwC3oFCAAQhgE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHLQZZoAkdig&usg=AOvVaw2raqdSdYFdKB5VW9mhwvya). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/59 "2018-04-25T02:52:36Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > I can’t get the TamperMonkey thing to work. (I’m assuming that if it were working, the :rolleyes: face would be green and frownier). Installed on both Safari and Chrome, no workee in either, including full quit and restart of browser and return to this page with forced reload. You mention TamperMonkey, but are you also installing the script itself? [Here’s a direct link to the page](https://openuserjs.org/scripts/BigTSDMB/SDMB_Old_Smileys). Click the big blue Install button. If TM is working right, it should bring up a page asking if you want to install the script. The icon should be the old rolleyes, since that’s the one everyone likes the most. I admit I’ve never tested it on a Mac. But Chrome, at least, should work the same. And I would expect TamperMonkey on Safari to work, too. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754/60 "2018-04-25T02:59:17Z")
Oops. I see the problem. It doesn’t activate on the new HTTPS version of the site. I could have sworn I’d already fixed this, but I guess I forgot. That should be fixed in version 4.1. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-we-have-the-good-rolleyes-back/812754.md?page=4)