# Why close the Chivalry thread?

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**Created:** [March 7, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401 "2021-03-07T21:11:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/1 "2021-03-07T21:11:16Z")

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This thread had evolved into an interesting and non-combative discussion on chivalry in general. I see no reason to close it just because the original topic was done being discussed. Or move it to MPSIMS.

> [@Chivalry isn't dead...unfortunately](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chivalry-isnt-dead-unfortunately/937305/35):
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> Modding: This thread started out about a stupid HS program and has evolved into the nature of medieval chivalry. If you want to debate that, start a new thread, but the original question in this thread seems to have ended.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/2 "2021-03-07T21:16:08Z")

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I guess _one_ way to stop a hijack is to put a halt to the entire conversation. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/3 "2021-03-07T21:29:47Z")

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I agree, what’s wrong with let the conversation evolve? It’s not like it had turned into a discussion of llama husbandry.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/4 "2021-03-07T21:33:17Z")

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Or ask people to stop the hijack…which I would have requested the Mods to do if not for the fact that multiple requests to certain Mods in the past for this to be done have been denied after I was told that sometimes conversations change naturally.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/5 "2021-03-07T21:35:05Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> llama husbandry.

I do not know anything about this subject but I am now going to make it my mission in life to turn every thread to this topic.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/6 "2021-03-07T21:41:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Or ask people to stop the hijack

Well, but that’s only necessary if people are still actively trying to discuss the original topic, and cannot do so without disruption. That surely wasn’t the case here, or it wouldn’t have been closed.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/7 "2021-03-07T21:43:12Z")

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Apparently it’s possible for mods to move conversations to a new thread. Perhaps the mod who closed the thread should seek guidance on how to do that.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/8 "2021-03-07T21:46:49Z")

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But why? It’s not like this is Wikipedia. It’s people talking. If the conversation moves on naturally to something closely related to the OP, why stop it at all? It just seems very heavy handed, and it doesn’t seem like this is something mods have felt the need to do in the past.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/9 "2021-03-07T22:41:27Z")

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That was a strange and unnecessary action by @Hari_Seldon. 🤨

It seems that usually a thread is only closed as a last resort, after multiple warnings, and after a heated discussion has gotten totally out of control. Or closed quickly because the OP is trolling.

To close a thread with no warning at all, when discussion had been polite and the thread had already petered out (there had been no posts for 14 hours) is inexplicable.

Usually discussions in GD are allowed some leeway and digressions.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/10 "2021-03-07T23:20:11Z")

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When a poster makes a tangential point that is that wrong it can’t be expected that other posters are not going to correct it, thread drift be damned.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/11 "2021-03-08T00:49:46Z")

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The thread really didn’t belong in Great Debates in the first place, unless somebody from the Texas high school administration had popped in to debate the issue. Should have been moved and left open.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/12 "2021-03-08T01:02:06Z")

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How about I reopen it and move it to IMHO?

The debate was done if there was ever really a debate. I believe that is why Hari closed it.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/13 "2021-03-08T01:09:01Z")

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That’d be great.

It still seems wrong for mods to just decide to close threads they’ve decided are finished.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/14 "2021-03-08T01:21:01Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> How about I reopen it and move it to IMHO?

That’s reasonable. Thanks.

We’re people reporting the thread? Otherwise, I can’t see why it would be closed.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/15 "2021-03-08T02:32:09Z")

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There was a report or two on it.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/16 "2021-03-08T02:53:48Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> It still seems wrong for mods to just decide to close threads they’ve decided are finished.

For GD and ATMB it is fairly legit.  
ATMB suffers from posters trying to continue the debate from another thread and those do and should be stopped or closed.

GD suffers from threads that aren’t really debates to start with, hopeless arguments that become a few posters just sniping at each other and of course major derailments that aren’t caught in time that become the focus of the thread.

I would say in **Hari\_Seldon** ’s defense, there wasn’t much of a debate and the the thread was better suited to RO in the Pit, Laughing at the idiots in MPSIMS or the thread we pretty much ended up with in IMHO.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/17 "2021-03-08T03:07:47Z")

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Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/18 "2021-03-08T03:35:06Z")

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Thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/19 "2021-03-08T04:05:39Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> We’re

Total aside, but don’t you just hate that particular autocorrect? I know I type “were” much more often than “we’re.” I don’t know why Google assumes the word with an apostrophe is more common. It should just appear in those words on the top as an option. Or, you know, just put the apostrophe on the main keyboard.

It’s also the main reason I will misuse “it’s.” Google in its infinite wisdom seems to think it should always have an apostrophe.

Oh, and in @Hari_Seldon’s other defense: one of the new rules that were instituted in GD was that threads in that particular forum were supposed to stay more on topic.

I like the solution @What_Exit? came up with, though.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-close-the-chivalry-thread/937401/20 "2021-03-08T04:34:24Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Total aside, but don’t you just hate that particular autocorrect? I know I type “were” much more often than “we’re.” I don’t know why Google assumes the word with an apostrophe is more common. It should just appear in those words on the top as an option. Or, you know, just put the apostrophe on the main keyboard.
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> It’s also the main reason I will misuse “it’s.” Google in its infinite wisdom seems to think it should always have an apostrophe.

I have never had Google autocorrect either “were” or “its”. See? were, its, were, its, were, its.

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