# Why conservatives can't get what they want

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 29, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582 "2006-06-29T01:31:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582/81 "2006-07-03T17:42:59Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, do you think most Pub voters feel the way you do? Not about McCain, but about the issues you mention.

I don’t give a rats behind if others feel the way I do.

But let me reiterate:  
\*I don’t believe JM will energize the core base enough to get the nomination  
\*If he get’s the nomination I don’t believe he can win  
\*If he succeeds in either or both he will do it without my vote.

I don’t like John McCain & I don’t need to justify every little reason why I don’t, nor convince you that I’m not alone in my disdain of him.

Let’s just wait until '08 and see what we will see.🙂

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582/82 "2006-07-03T17:45:31Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> I don’t give a rats behind if others feel the way I do.

Finally, the OP is answered! 🙂

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582/83 "2006-07-06T06:35:22Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> I thought of myself as conservative back in '94 (hey, I was just 23), when the Repubs took both houses. Hooray! I thought. _Finally_ someone with a plan was going to try to change America for the better.

They did – for themselves. _That’s_ where you got suckered.

My rule-of-thumb is, unless you’re making over $1 million/year, voting Republican is the political equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582/84 "2006-07-06T16:34:49Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> They did – for themselves. _That’s_ where you got suckered.
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> My rule-of-thumb is, unless you’re making over $1 million/year, voting Republican is the political equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

Yup. I’ve been saying for years that the Republicans are the party of “millionaires, fundamentalists, and suckers”. It’s a great way to kick off political discussions at parties!

Although lately, after seeing how little the fundamentalists have got in return for their support for the Republican party, I think I need to revise it to just “millionaires and suckers”.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582/85 "2006-07-06T16:43:19Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> My rule-of-thumb is, unless you’re making over $1 million/year, voting Republican is the political equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

Quite true. Unfortunately, we have a lot of voters who care more about their “values” than their economic interests.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582/86 "2006-07-06T21:45:37Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Quite true. Unfortunately, we have a lot of voters who care more about their “values” than their economic interests.

Regarding that – and what to do about it – check out [_Foxes in the Henhouse: How the Republicans Stole the South and the Heartland and What the Democrats Must Do to Run 'Em Out,_](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743286510/sr=8-1/qid=1152222188/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8696644-3496124?ie=UTF8) by Steve Jarding and Dave Saunders. It’s awesome!

See also [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=312933)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-conservatives-cant-get-what-they-want/362582/87 "2006-07-09T12:14:16Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Rick Santorum
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> JUST KIDDING! But I’d love to see the look on your face right now!:p;)

Here it is: 🙂🙂😃 I would **love** to see Rick Santorum get the Pub nomination in 2008!

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