# Why did David Bowie Sound so much different in his later years v early years? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 10, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445 "2019-08-10T07:10:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/1 "2019-08-10T07:10:33Z")
During Ziggy Stardust days Bowie was very high pitched, almost nasal and snarling. Here’s one example: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/iYYRH4apXDo/maxresdefault.jpg "David Bowie – Space Oddity (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYYRH4apXDo) Contrast with his 80s work where he was more of a “crooner”. Exhibit B: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/VbD_kBJc_gI/maxresdefault.jpg "David Bowie - Let's Dance (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbD_kBJc_gI) Was it a more mature voice with age? Could he not hit the high notes as he got older? Was it a production trick? Was Bowie so talented he could sing in any pitch but chose a lower smoother pitch as he got older? Was he a smoker or heavy drinker and that changed his singing style? I have many many more examples of the contrast BTW. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/2 "2019-08-10T07:36:15Z")
Bowie had a wide vocal range for most of his career. As he got older, he did start to lose the high notes, but he could hit them into the early 90s at least. I think the most likely explanation lies in his wide ranging tastes. Contrast his albums one to the other, and you’ll see a lot of variance in styles and types of music. I’ll also point out that Bowie did use the deep end of his range early in his career. Take Major Tom for example. I don’t agree that “Let’s Dance” is crooning by the way. Life on Mars I could see getting that label. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/3 "2019-08-10T14:41:48Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > During Ziggy Stardust days Bowie was very high pitched, almost nasal and snarling. Here’s one example: > > [https://youtu.be/iYYRH4apXDo](https://youtu.be/iYYRH4apXDo) > > Contrast with his 80s work where he was more of a “crooner”. Exhibit B: > > [https://youtu.be/VbD\_kBJc\_gI](https://youtu.be/VbD_kBJc_gI) [Note: That second link is to “Let’s Dance”] > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I don’t agree that “Let’s Dance” is crooning by the way. Life on Mars I could see getting that label. But of course Life on Mars predates Ziggy. Was that the point that you were making? j ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/4 "2019-08-10T15:19:31Z")
I always just thought that Bowie was a very versatile vocalist, who could sing in a variety of styles and vocal personas, as the material called for. When he got older, did he still sing his earlier material the same way in concert? (One singer who I think did/does sound significantly different—consistently so—in his later years vs. early years is Brian Wilson. Compare the original [1965 version of “Let Him Run Wild”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtWDcam4UcE) with Brian’s [“cover” from 1998](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhJibKW5-nc).) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/5 "2019-08-10T17:57:43Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > [Note: That second link is to “Let’s Dance”] > > But of course Life on Mars predates Ziggy. Was that the point that you were making? > > j Yes. The change in singing styles noted by the OP isn’t consistent with Bowie’s actual songs. ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/6 "2019-08-17T06:49:09Z")
A lot of singers seem to do that. Elvis Presley, Elton John and Paul McCartney come to mind. Elton lowered Tiny Dancer to a really low key. Joey Ramone is another. His voice turned into a bull frog late in his career. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/7 "2019-08-17T17:30:03Z")
I don’t know a lot of male pop stars with long careers whose voices DIDN’T change in their later years. Age changes your voice. Some more than others, sure, but it changes. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/8 "2019-08-18T03:02:31Z")
Puberty? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/9 "2019-08-18T03:52:25Z")
Young skinny 1940s Frank Sinatra was clearly a tenor. By the time he hit his stride during the Capitol years of the 1950s, he had mellowed into a rich baritone voice. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/10 "2019-08-18T04:57:24Z")
Google the Bowie scene from “The Trip to Spain” with Rob Brydon and Steve Coogan. (I would link it but I have no idea how.) ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/11 "2019-08-18T08:12:22Z")
> [@caligulathegod](#): > > Elton lowered Tiny Dancer to a really low key. [Of course, Elton had throat surgery in 1987.](https://ultimateclassicrock.com/elton-john-throat-surgery/) In the article, there’s a quote where he claims he’s a better singer now. Either he’s delusional or he’s trying to convince himself that things aren’t that bad, because he was a far, FAR better singer in his youth. I had the occasion to watch an early performance of Penn & Teller this week, on Youtube. In the clip I watched, Penn (recently) talked about their second appearance on Letterman. He talked about it in his gravelly voice, then they showed the early appearance. I could hardly recognize his voice, as the characteristic roughness was gone. I used to be hard on singers that smoked and did coke and swilled straight whiskey, thinking they had no respect for the gift so many of us admire and would love to have. . . but watching the Penn & Teller clip, and knowing Penn didn’t do any of those things (AFAIK), maybe the damage is just a consequence of NEVER SHUTTING UP! 😃 Just using their voice wears and damages the vocal cords. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/12 "2019-08-18T10:32:19Z")
I do think that “Let’s Dance” and a lot of his other 80s stuff could be classified as “crooning” but he had non-crooning songs as well. It works perfectly in Let’s Dance in particular because the voice matches the style of the song, as also exemplified by Ferry and Duran Duran. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/13 "2019-08-18T15:43:52Z")
A [recent documentary of his early years](https://decider.com/2019/08/09/david-bowie-finding-fame-showtime-review/) reveals that Bowie’s early singing style was heavily influenced by [Anthony Newley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZEcRyJf704) (skip to 1:30 mark). ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/14 "2019-08-20T19:14:28Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > [Of course, Elton had throat surgery in 1987.](https://ultimateclassicrock.com/elton-john-throat-surgery/) > > In the article, there’s a quote where he claims he’s a better singer now. Either he’s delusional or he’s trying to convince himself that things aren’t that bad, because he was a far, FAR better singer in his youth. I agree, I can’t even stand to hear Elton John sing anymore. I suppose you might be able to chalk some of it up to laziness or boredom of singing a song for the thousandth time. There are any number of aged singers who change the key and change the melody so much that it really isn’t the same song any more. As for David Bowie, although I notice changes in his voice over the years, I mostly notice the completely different styles of songs and singing he used throughout his career. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/15 "2019-08-20T20:08:16Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > A [recent documentary of his early years](https://decider.com/2019/08/09/david-bowie-finding-fame-showtime-review/) reveals that Bowie’s early singing style was heavily influenced by [Anthony Newley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZEcRyJf704) (skip to 1:30 mark). I enjoyed that documentary, but I’m beyond annoyed that it introduced me to that Laughing Elf song. Man, bad bad BAD. ---
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> [@caligulathegod](#): > > A lot of singers seem to do that. Elvis Presley, Elton John and Paul McCartney come to mind. Elton lowered Tiny Dancer to a really low key. Joey Ramone is another. His voice turned into a bull frog late in his career. I don’t think Paul McCartney lowered any keys for his songs. But his voice has definitely gotten warblier. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/17 "2019-08-20T21:12:00Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I enjoyed that documentary, but I’m beyond annoyed that it introduced me to that Laughing Elf song. Man, bad bad BAD. “I was walking, Down the High Street, When I heard footsteps behind me…” 😃 Once heard, never forgotten… ---
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> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t know a lot of male pop stars with long careers whose voices DIDN’T change in their later years. Age changes your voice. Some more than others, sure, but it changes. Sting and Don Henley are notable exceptions then. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-david-bowie-sound-so-much-different-in-his-later-years-v-early-years/838445/19 "2019-08-20T21:54:23Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t know a lot of male pop stars with long careers whose voices DIDN’T change in their later years. Age changes your voice. Some more than others, sure, but it changes. I agree in principle, but the one exception that has withstood the times surprisingly well is Van Morrison. I saw him last year, and he still can belt out the high notes and growl like a tiger in the next bar like always. I think that his voice changed more between his first recordings with Them (when he still sounded a lot like Mick Jagger) and “Astral Weeks” than between 1969 and today.