# Why did everyone RUSH to back up Manhattan? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2000, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190 "2000-08-13T14:27:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/1 "2000-08-13T14:27:42Z")
Nobody cops that much criticism for no reason. I’d like to point out a few things about “manny” too. I think manhattan suffers from a shocking lack of consistency. If you check out: **[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=11192](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=11192)** You will see manhattan’s response to this “spammer” was “We would not, could not in GQ. We don’t like spam and don’t like you. We do not want it on our screen. Clogging our board was really mean.” But wait a minute… lets head on over to THIS thread and read manhattan’s OP… **[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=14514](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=14514)** And you can’t tell me that you all haven’t noticed his shocking inconsistency in threads which “he” deems not suitable for GQ, but should rather be in IMHO. An incident I am well aware of is this thread. **[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=33459](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=33459)** Is there a definitive answer to this question? Hell no. All answers were merely opinions, but manhattan let it ride safely in GQ. As he did with this one… **[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=32527](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=32527)** Is there a definitive answer there? No. Many people would either answer “Yes”, “no” or “sort of”. But where was manny on this one? Now for a case of OBVIOUS double standards. Check this… **[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=31433](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=31433)** I stopped counting the different opinions expressed on this one when I got to 6. By now you might all be thinking “Yeah, but manny can’t read ALL threads, he may have just overlooked it.” WRONG! Click the above url, you’ll see manny even posted… wait for this… HIS OPINION on the matter. Now read… **[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=29068](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=29068)** This one didn’t last long. Manny shipped it over to IMHO after just 2 replies. Just to re-cap on that last one… “What’s the best way to prepare nachos?” -got moved to IMHO “How the hell do you eat a mango?” -stayed in GQ, and even included manhattan’s opinion on the matter. You can all say what you like about manny. I think it’s clear what my OPINION is of him. OH WAIT! I better not say that, he’ll probably ship it straight over to IMHO… ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/2 "2000-08-13T14:32:11Z")
IMHO what you have done is post your humble opinion. You say so yourself. Are you trying to invite a forum jump ? Careful, it might not end up where you want. ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/3 "2000-08-13T14:38:17Z")
I posted it here because this is where everyone came to back up manny. I know it doesn’t BELONG here, but this is where everyone (surprise!) from GQ is. But read my OP, you’ll find there are many threads in GQ that belong in IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/4 "2000-08-13T15:15:18Z")
This is a very simple situation. 1. Manhatten is the moderator for this board 2. Nobody’s perfect. 3. Most of the people here (myself included) think that all things considered, he does a fine job. 4. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. 5. No, this is not the appropriate place to put it. 6. Manny would probably appreciate constructive criticism (perhaps in a private email or MPSIMS) but this sounds like a personal vendetta. The points expressed in your post are just too anal to have truly pissed you off. 7. If you don’t like it, go away. This is not a democracy. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/5 "2000-08-13T15:19:46Z")
> [@](#): > > I posted it here because this is where everyone came to back up manny. No, [that thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=34375) is in MPSIMS, where it should be. Tell me if it has been moved, but I doubt it. Your post belongs in the Pit, because from the front page, it is > [@](#): > > the place for all complaints and other discussion regarding administration of the SDMB which seems pretty clear to me. To address your point (you should fix your links if you’re going to be naughty enough to cross-post anyway) moderation requires judgement. It’s not like Jeopardy, where it is easy for any throwback to tell whether the response is phrased correctly. Perhaps Manny will explain politely why he did what he did. Probably he will say some of them are arguable. **This** is why people backed him: generally he gets it right. If it is arguable and someone asks, he will say so. You have now asked twice, and you may find that some people get a bit snooty with you. The bottom line is that people stay here because the board works and people support the mods because they contribute to that a great deal behind the scenes and we are grateful. m’kay? picmr ---
**Author:** ![justwannano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ab992/32.png) [@justwannano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justwannano)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/6 "2000-08-13T15:26:45Z")
Hatter Do you mean that you posted here “because it fit here” better.Hmmm Moder…of well ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/7 "2000-08-13T15:38:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MadHatter \* > \*\* > Just to re-cap on that last one… > > “What’s the best way to prepare nachos?” > -got moved to IMHO > > “How the hell do you eat a mango?” > -stayed in GQ, and even included manhattan’s opinion on the matter. > > \*\* That’s right… included MANHATTAN’S OPINION ON THE MATTER. The key word there is OPINION, as in IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/8 "2000-08-13T15:43:32Z")
You’ve already been spanked in MPSIMS by the participants there and now you present your chapped and blistered rear end to GQ for another round of “Sir. May I have another please!”. I’ve posted to a number of message boards over the past 15 years or so and this is among the better moderated of any I have ever seen. Manhattan does an excellent job in a difficult task. If something is on a dividing line of relevance to a particular forum and he makes a decision you disagree with…fine, but to crash wheezing and sweating into the GQ cocktail party, and after urinating in the merrily crackling fire place, storm to the head of the table and j’accuse Manny of being well…inconsistent. Well! GQ Assembed: Jeeves remove this man! MadHatter: I’ll get you all… you inconsistent bastards! You haven’t heard the last of me! Hey what are doing with that cloth? Muuph! Jeeves: Shall I set the dogs on him? GQ: Well…not until he’s cleared the driveway. Wouldn’t be sporting otherwise. Now back to our topic at hand. How in the world do you eat a mango? MadHatter: Muuph! Murph!! Nurrrguumh!!! ---
**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/9 "2000-08-13T15:48:55Z")
This really does belong in the pit so I could add the proper embellishments, but to answer your last post, did you read the questions asked? “How the hell do you eat a mango?” can be perceived as asking for a specific answer to a specific question. Ever peel a mango? They are wierd fruit. “What’s the best way to prepare nachos?” obviously has a subjective (i.e. opinion, as in IMHO) factor to it. Yes, manhattan posted an opinion in the mango thread, as did a lot of people, as to the yummyness of the mango, but those comments were actually peripheral. Some posters actually answered the question. ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/10 "2000-08-13T16:16:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 2nd Law \* > \*\* > > “How the hell do you eat a mango?” can be perceived as asking for a specific answer to a specific question. Ever peel a mango? They are wierd fruit. > > \*\* No, it can’t. There is no SPECIFIC answer to THAT question. Read what people posted there. Mere opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/11 "2000-08-13T16:23:10Z")
Madhatter: Perhaps you should consider fighting injustice on a large scale. Getting pissed off about the discrimination of nachos versus mangos as a discussio topic, may be setting your sights to low, don’t you think? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/12 "2000-08-13T16:29:26Z")
Your point would be better made with links that work in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![light\_strand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@light\_strand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/light_strand)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/13 "2000-08-13T16:31:04Z")
Certainly it can. If I asked: “How do you peel an orange?”. Is that an IMHO? How about: “How do you eat a pomegranate?”. But what if my question was: “What’s the best way to PREPARE mango?” ## Do you get it? Now a question for you MadHatter. Why does this bother you? ---
**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/14 "2000-08-13T16:43:45Z")
I would prefer that that the butler is named “Jarvis,” but hey, whatever. As for manny, I’ve always maintained that he’s a puppet for the Bavarian Illuminati, and an evil agent of creeping one-worldism. MadHatter, if manhattan boots this obviously inappropriate-for-GQ thread to the proper forum, will you view that as a job done well and fairly, or an example of that dictatorial bastard (who probably derived his supreme executive power in some farcical aquatic ceremony) once again silencing the disenfranchised? ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/15 "2000-08-13T16:54:26Z")
All right folks pass on by nothing to see here, let the people pass. ---
**Author:** ![MadHatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MadHatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadHatter)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/16 "2000-08-13T16:57:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lux Fiat \* > \*\* > MadHatter, if manhattan boots this obviously inappropriate-for-GQ thread to the proper forum, will you view that as a job done well and fairly, or an example of that dictatorial bastard (who probably derived his supreme executive power in some farcical aquatic ceremony) once again silencing the disenfranchised? \*\* The latter. Well it is quite clear that all you little conformists could have manny come around and burn your house down and you would still run around blindly yelling “Hail Manny!” Has he brainwashed you? It’s become obvious that even if I prove Manhattan shot JFK you’d still come up with some rediculous garble about your big hero manhattan. So I will leave this arguement with a final question: Why does manhattan get by far the most criticism of any moderator on the board? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/17 "2000-08-13T17:03:30Z")
Actually, I think DavidB gets attacked more than “Manny the Mover.” ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/18 "2000-08-13T17:06:44Z")
Because people will always put their opinions to GQ rather than the proper place. Working out what a debate is, is within the grasp of most folk. If you want to fry someone it isn’t hard to work out where to do that Comments on Cecils columns no chance of getting it wrong there . No, GQ is the place that everyone puts their posts if they are not sure. Conformity and harmony builds great things, strife and controversy is stimulating but can be destructive. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/19 "2000-08-13T17:13:28Z")
“Manny the mover?” I _love_ it! I’m going to add it to my sig for moderator email. Thanks! **MadHatter** ’s just steamed because I frustrated his efforts to obtain naked pictures of a minor [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=31211). This thread is off to the Pit, where it belongs. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190/20 "2000-08-13T17:20:47Z")
Blimey, he still mad at that ? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-everyone-rush-to-back-up-manhattan/29190.md?page=2)