# Why did Guinan have a special meaning to Picard?

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**Created:** [March 25, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-guinan-have-a-special-meaning-to-picard/715961 "2015-03-25T19:13:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-guinan-have-a-special-meaning-to-picard/715961/41 "2015-03-26T20:16:05Z")

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\*\*Simster’s \*\*take is mine as well, with perhaps a subtext of: Beverly could have chosen Jack or Picard, and chose Jack, and now Jack is dead (and Pircard feels guilty) so Picard doesn’t feel right to court her/have a relationship.

I also felt similar to **Tom Tildrum** regarding the nonviolence thing for Guinan’s people vs the Borg - if you can’t reason with or empathize away an implacable enemy, then running and scattering is pretty much the only option left. That and perhaps hoping that someone more bloodthirsty than you will come along and do them in…

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-guinan-have-a-special-meaning-to-picard/715961/42 "2015-03-26T21:43:49Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> But Happy would.

Happy did.

But so what? Happy’s not a hero.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-guinan-have-a-special-meaning-to-picard/715961/43 "2015-03-27T01:43:44Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> They both know that Quinan has a gold statuette that rightfully belongs to Picard.

Good one TSS! I will remember that line for a long time.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-guinan-have-a-special-meaning-to-picard/715961/44 "2015-03-28T11:41:13Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I can’t recall a single episode that even hinted that Picard might be Wesley’s bio-father, and I defy you to name one.

IIRC, Beverly Crusher was blue-eyed, like Jack Crusher, and Wesley was brown-eyed, like Jean-Luc Picard; whether that’s a subtle hint or a casting mistake, I dunno.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-guinan-have-a-special-meaning-to-picard/715961/45 "2015-03-28T17:47:06Z")

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Picard certainly felt a fatherly obligation to Wesley because the deceased father was a friend and fellow officer. But his ability to deal with children was always hilariously poor. Had he been Wesley’s real father, he would have made a more thorough effort. Picard was pretty much not interested in sex and I would say asexual.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-guinan-have-a-special-meaning-to-picard/715961/46 "2015-03-28T21:33:07Z")

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> [@Cartoonacy](#):
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> Guinan had a talent for making people look inside and see their true selves. That’s a skill that Q would seriously unpleasant, but wouldn’t bother the Borg at all.

What you say makes sense, but what would that have to do with the threatening hand gestures? Not to be really snide about it, but what was her “body language” saying?

Something like: “Q, you may destroy me with your power, but just before that instant I’ll make you realize what a jerk you realllly are!” :dubious:

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