# Why did NASA stop faking moon landings? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 2, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285 "2007-10-02T18:16:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/41 "2007-10-03T02:56:23Z")
This is all nonsense. It wasn’t CGI at all. They faked the Moon landings, but they did it **on the Moon**. We’ve been there since the Twenties, ever since they perfected Tesla’s antigravity engine. Naturally, the whole idea is to make space travel look much harder than it really is, so that people aren’t demanding to go up as tourists. There’s no way they could hide the Harvester ships coming and going with their cargos of abductees if unapproved people were allowed into space. And if they revealed the Tesla Drive and it’s ability to draw power from the Earth’s magnetic field lines, it would destroy the transportation and petrochemical industries; there’s no way they’d let it become public. So instead, we are treated to a pageant of giant, incredibly expensive rockets, and a dead moon that doesn’t even have an atmosphere. Suuure it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/42 "2007-10-03T03:02:34Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] So, Bart Sibrel is saying that the Soviet Union didn’t develop radio until the mid-seventies. [/QUOTE] If the Soviets didn’t have radio, how did they invent the Beatles, whose sole purpose was to destroy American society with loud music and drug use? Does this mean the Soviets faked their moon landings to draw attention away from the death of Paul McCartney? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/43 "2007-10-03T03:30:56Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] If the Soviets didn’t have radio, how did they invent the Beatles, whose sole purpose was to destroy American society with loud music and drug use? [/QUOTE] They didn’t invent the Beatles. They faked the Beatles. The Beatles so called music is fake music. If you strip away the guitar, drums and singing, there’s nothing actually there. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/44 "2007-10-03T04:04:23Z")
[QUOTE=Lust4Life] You POOR fools ,the faking of the moon landings was faked ! At that time the U.S. just didn’t have the technology in model making to make us all believe that there had been a moon landing . But what had been kept secret was that the U.S. HAD developed C.G. to the degree where they could fake ,fake moon landings and so they faked the moon landings ,confident in the fact that nobody would discover that they had C.G. [/QUOTE] You almost got it right. At the beginning of the space race our top people knew that there was no way make it to the moon. so the decision was made to fake the moon landings. Unfortunately CGI technology was so primitive that it was impossible to make it look even half way real. That left the United States with only one option. It became necessary to actually build all that hardware that they had been making models of, and go to the moon in order to fake the fake moon landing. It’s really a classic bit of deception if you think about it ETA: Post #7500! Woot! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/45 "2007-10-03T04:17:01Z")
[QUOTE=sciurophobic] What’s the moon hoax crowd’s excuse? [/QUOTE] I think it was because they finally had to kill all of the support staff inolved. The astronauts were glad to keep quiet and bask in the adulation, but the people behind the scenes started talking too much. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/46 "2007-10-03T04:40:00Z")
[QUOTE=Siam Sam] I think it was because they finally had to kill all of the support staff inolved. [/QUOTE] Not to mention replacing them with perfect dopplegangers. Some, including [Gene Kranz](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Kranz) and [John Aaron](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Aaron), are still living. God only knows where the original bodies are buried. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/47 "2007-10-03T05:09:34Z")
If the Soviet moon shots were also hoaxed, why weren’t they manned? I mean, no one paid any attention to unmanned flights, especially after the Apollo 11 hoax. So why’d they even bother to do those unmanned hoaxes? Not enough money? If they couldn’t afford a manned hoax, why’d they even waste their money on a unmanned one? Something smells fishy here… Another thing. Why hasn’t NASA done a manned Mars hoax yet? They keep doing all these unmanned Mars hoaxes, but no manned ones. Don’t tell me they can’t afford that either. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/48 "2007-10-03T05:11:55Z")
[QUOTE=Rick] At the beginning of the space race our top people knew that there was no way make it to the moon. so the decision was made to fake the moon landings. Unfortunately CGI technology was so primitive that it was impossible to make it look even half way real. That left the United States with only one option. It became necessary to actually build all that hardware that they had been making models of, and go to the moon in order to fake the fake moon landing. It’s really a classic bit of deception if you think about it [/QUOTE] Somewhere in there is a Joseph Heller novel screaming to get out. [QUOTE=dtilque] Another thing. Why hasn’t NASA done a manned Mars hoax yet? They keep doing all these unmanned Mars hoaxes, but no manned ones. Don’t tell me they can’t afford that either. [/QUOTE] The problem is the time delay. See, for a real mission to Mars there would be a time lag of several minutes at the longest distance, but getting the actors to be patient enough to sit and wait before responding would be impossible. (See _Capricorn One_.) And besides, they’ve already torn down the soundstage in Burbank to build condos, so there’s no place to film it. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Mann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@Rich\_Mann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rich_Mann)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/49 "2007-10-03T06:00:55Z")
[QUOTE=dtilque] Another thing. Why hasn’t NASA done a manned Mars hoax yet? They keep doing all these unmanned Mars hoaxes, but no manned ones. Don’t tell me they can’t afford that either. [/QUOTE] Because the fake Mars footage is filmed on the Moon using a red filter, duh! They have to use tiny little models of the rovers so that the horizon of the much smaller Moon appears to have the right curvature for Mars. If you filmed people in spacesuits there the scale would be all wrong and the hoax obvious. Think, people! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/50 "2007-10-03T06:28:54Z")
Not sure how the subject arose, but years ago I tentatively asked a co-worker whether he believed the moon landings were a hoax— “of COURSE it was faked,” he scoffed, as though only an idiot to think otherwise. He did, however, insist that only the _first_ moon landing was faked, simply as an expedient to appear beat the Soviets there, but that subsequent landings were legitimate. He also claimed (long before the “Loose Change” and 9/11 Truth malignancy developed online— in fact, within a day or two after the event happened) that the WTC attacks were intentionally carried out by our own leaders in order to establish martial law, or as he phrased it “another Reichstag fire.” (Which did not, and has not since made much sense to me, being that he self-identified as a libertarian but was a pretty vocal supporter of the Bush administration and leaned right in general; maybe he thought the Clintons planned 9/11. I never had the chance to investigate further and we haven’t spoken in years.) ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/51 "2007-10-03T06:32:36Z")
Must … resist … urge … to … google … “Capricorn One”. The Moon landings were faked, but the Mars landing depicted in _Capricorn One_ was real. **They** don’t want you to know about it. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/52 "2007-10-03T06:44:44Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] They didn’t invent the Beatles. They faked the Beatles. The Beatles so called music is fake music. If you strip away the guitar, drums and singing, there’s nothing actually there. [/QUOTE] Right you are. That’s why they killed “Paul”. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/53 "2007-10-03T07:49:08Z")
The moon landings had to have been faked. Why else would you get stupid jokes like: > [@](#): > > Q. Did you hear about the new restaurant on the moon? > > A. Yes, great food, but no atmosphere. Yes, I know that wasn’t great, but I didn’t have anything funny. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/54 "2007-10-03T08:39:07Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] But it IS round. It just isn’t spherical. [/QUOTE] This is true. It’s shaped like an aspirin tablet. The equator is a physical groove - if you pressed a knife there, the Earth would split into two pieces to make it easier to swallow. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/55 "2007-10-03T11:24:29Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] . . . crazy little animals. [/QUOTE] Watch it buddy. Just in case anyone here hasn’t seen it, here’s the [conclusive evidence](http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/56 "2007-10-03T13:22:07Z")
[QUOTE=KGS] Not to mention replacing them with perfect dopplegangers. Some, including [Gene Kranz](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Kranz) and [John Aaron](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Aaron), are still living. God only knows where the original bodies are buried. [/QUOTE] I was under the impression that at least a few of the bodies were stuffed into Lunar probes in the mid-90s and jettisoned on the far side of the Moon. ---
**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/57 "2007-10-03T13:38:45Z")
Everyone knows you can’t travel to the moon because it is fake! That’s where Christof is controlling [everything!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120382/) ---
**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/58 "2007-10-03T13:51:16Z")
[QUOTE=Terminus Est] Don’t you see…the Soviet unmanned moon landings were fake, too. [/QUOTE] Um … so why didn’t they just fake manned landings lke we did? Stoopid Ruskies! ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/59 "2007-10-03T14:23:25Z")
[QUOTE=Voyager] Right you are. That’s why they killed “Paul”. [/QUOTE] Ivan killed Pavel. It’s as plain as the nose on Ringyievietch’s face. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/60 "2007-10-03T15:58:04Z")
[QUOTE=Wikipedia] In honor of the 36th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing on July 20, 1969, Google took public domain imagery of the Moon, integrated it into the Google Maps interface, and created a tool called Google Moon.[22] By default this tool, with a reduced set of features, also displays the points of landing of all Apollo spacecraft to land on the Moon. **It also included an easter egg, displaying a Swiss cheese design at the highest zoom level, _which Google has since removed_**. \ [/QUOTE] I can’t believe they removed the Easter egg! I wanted to share it with you guys! ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285.md?page=4)