# Why did NASA stop faking moon landings?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 2, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285 "2007-10-02T18:16:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/61 "2007-10-03T16:07:29Z")

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They didn’t stop the fake landings- they just pretended to.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/62 "2007-10-03T16:39:45Z")

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Getting back to the original questioning of the CTs proposing that the Moon Landings were faked, how do they account for the reflectors left by several of the Apollo missions?

Is it as simple as they claim that the data from the reflectors is faked, itself?

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/63 "2007-10-03T17:19:36Z")

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]  
…Is it as simple as they claim that the data from the reflectors is faked, itself?  
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Yes, I believe it is. I mean, have you seen the reflectors, personally? (BTW, If you say yes, that means you’re in on the whole thing)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/64 "2007-10-04T03:37:59Z")

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[QUOTE=dtilque]  
If the Soviet moon shots were also hoaxed, why weren’t they manned? I mean, no one paid any attention to unmanned flights, especially after the Apollo 11 hoax. So why’d they even bother to do those unmanned hoaxes? Not enough money? If they couldn’t afford a manned hoax, why’d they even waste their money on a unmanned one?

Something smells fishy here…

Another thing. Why hasn’t NASA done a manned Mars hoax yet? They keep doing all these unmanned Mars hoaxes, but no manned ones. Don’t tell me they can’t afford that either.  
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The Soviet moon shots were unmanned for the same reason the Mars shots are. First, it’s more believable; they just knew someone somewhere down the line would point out the unmanned nature of the shots as evidence they were not faked. Second, fewer people to have to keep quiet. 🆒

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/65 "2007-10-04T12:31:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Terrifel]  
I note that the time elapsed between **Mangetout’s** historic challenge and your response was only 1 hour 37 minutes. This is all a matter of public record.  
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And what’s more, they had this documentary on Fox that proved this could _not_ have been enough time for Lee Harvey Oswald to have done the animation, and they got other animators in to try it and none of them could do it inside of 1 hour 41 minutes, so that proves it. Also, even the attempts they _did_ come up with didn’t look anything like real cheese.

Also, ask yourself this, have you ever seen _any_ convincing proof that Oswald, _acting alone_, would have been able to pull off a moon landing? No. Neither have I. So it _must_ have been a conspiracy. Also, look at the evidence staring you in the face. Look at the letters of ‘Lee Harvey Oswald’ and near the middle you’ll see ‘vey Os’ which is a perfect anagram (almost) of ‘Savoy’ which _just happens_ to be the name of the hotel that Diana was staying in on the night of the so-called ‘accident’. And we are expected to believe that this is just a coincidence?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/66 "2007-10-04T12:36:38Z")

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[QUOTE=ianzin]  
Also, look at the evidence staring you in the face.  
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Do you mean staring me in the face on Mars, or the staring me in the face in the WTC fireball?

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**Author:** ![Pithy\_Moniker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@Pithy\_Moniker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pithy_Moniker)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/67 "2007-10-04T12:46:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
So, Bart Sibrel is saying that the Soviet Union didn’t develop radio until the mid-seventies.  
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Before that, it was loooooooong telegraph wires. That’s how they got their probes back from the moon. YANK!

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/68 "2007-10-04T14:39:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
Do you mean staring me in the face on Mars, or the staring me in the face in the WTC fireball?  
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Oh man oh man, how could you be SO gullible as to believe there is just _ **one** _ face on Mars?

The surface of Mars is _covered_ with faces, glyphs, structures and other sure-fire indicators of intelligent civilisation, including many designs that are subsequently replicated here on Earth as so-called crop circles. These structures on the surface of Mars seldom if ever show up on the official photos (except when, like with the original Face pix, there’s an accidental leak of truth) (cue assorted Dopers: “hey ‘Leak Of Truth’, band name!”… I’ve done it for them so they don’t have to). So obviously NASA are tampering with the photos before they are released, which proves they are ready to tamper with evidence, which proves they cannot be trusted when it comes to the so-called Moon Landings.

Also, for those who still think this is all coincidence, note that ‘moon landings’ = twelve letters precisely, and yet ‘Diana Spencer’ = also twelve letters precisely. Not enough? Well, look at this: moon l **andi** ngs, the letters in the middle just happen to be an anagram of ‘Diana’ (using the’a’ twice)! Crazy, you say? Impossible? Okay, show me _one, single piece_ of _well-documented evidence_, just **one** , that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that there is no connection between Jack Ruby and Diana Spencer.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/69 "2007-10-04T14:40:57Z")

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[QUOTE=ianzin]  
Oh man oh man, how could you be SO gullible as to believe there is just _ **one** _ face on Mars?  
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I admit I was distracted by the tiny giant spaceships on the moon.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/70 "2007-10-04T14:53:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
I admit I was distracted by the tiny giant spaceships on the moon.  
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Funny, the only tiny giant spaceships that I’m aware of intruding into Sol III space (that’s roughly twice the Moon’s orbital radius) accidentially got eaten by a dog.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/71 "2007-10-04T15:03:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Pithy Moniker]  
Before that, it was loooooooong telegraph wires. That’s how they got their probes back from the moon. YANK!  
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Dude, this isn’t the Pit. Don’t call **Miller** a Yank. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/72 "2007-10-04T18:09:22Z")

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[QUOTE=ianzin]  
Oh man oh man, how could you be SO gullible as to believe there is just _ **one** _ face on Mars?

The surface of Mars is _covered_ with faces, glyphs, structures and other sure-fire indicators of intelligent civilisation, including many designs that are subsequently replicated here on Earth as so-called crop circles. These structures on the surface of Mars seldom if ever show up on the official photos (except when, like with the original Face pix, there’s an accidental leak of truth) (cue assorted Dopers: “hey ‘Leak Of Truth’, band name!”… I’ve done it for them so they don’t have to). So obviously NASA are tampering with the photos before they are released, which proves they are ready to tamper with evidence, which proves they cannot be trusted when it comes to the so-called Moon Landings.  
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[The truth about the surface of Mars](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNqc_SeLLcs)

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/73 "2007-10-04T22:18:46Z")

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[QUOTE=KneadToKnow]  
It’s no so hard to imagine. Think of the Cold War as a 40-year time of mutual PMS between the USA and the USSR. Now, everybody knows, the last thing you want to do when there’s someone in the house PMSing is start up some new sh!t. Especially less than 10 years after that “You put your golf clubs (nuclear weapons) in my car (Cuba)!” argument.  
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You know, this is actually a pretty good argument. Anyone who has ever been in a serious relationship knows that sometimes maintaining harmony is more important than being right 😉

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**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-nasa-stop-faking-moon-landings/421285/74 "2007-10-05T06:09:33Z")

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All the moon hoaxers’ nitpicks are ridiculous. Of course there are no stars in the photos, the exposure time on the camera and the brightness of the moon’s surface made sure of that. And non-parallel shadows? Have these people ever walked outside?

There’s absolutely no way you can look at the footage of the moon landings and conclude they were faked. _That’s_ how good a job we did. The director had more scientific advisers than any other film project. I mean really, if we’re going to fake a moon landing, we’re going to do it _right_.

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